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Please suggest a good and relatively affordable private email provider. I am considering tuta, mailbox right now. I know proton has gone rogue.

I cannot self host one and the email provider must be somewhat reputable as I will be using this for my work portfolio. Anything with €1-€3 per month is encouraged.

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[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 47 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Proton has not gone rogue.

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[–] kekmacska@lemmy.zip 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

proton works, idc what one of the 5 owners say, it is impossible to avoid that type of people

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 28 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Tuta. Regardless of email provider, chose one that lets you use your own domain - that way it's easier to change providers.

[–] Slaxis@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I’ve been using Tuta for several years now, I didn’t know I could use my own domain!

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[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 4 months ago (18 children)

I still use proton, even after their terrible trump takes, but mostly because I have the legacy tier subscription and I haven't found a better alternative.

[–] asap@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It does make me feel a little better, but the fact that they doubled down and hasn't gone out to clarify make me really disappointed. Because they are a non profit foundation makes it a bit more secure also.

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[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Unfortunately, several of the author's conclusions are drawn from either errors or outright lies, or simply things being swept aside. Several of Andy's later posts are ignored, as is the amount he doubled down. Him using the official proton accounts to call his statements the official proton stance is waved away. It basically only examines the cleaned up, shiny final version of events proton would like you to pretend happened after they deleted everything, instead of what actually happened. Worse, it pretends that was the only chain of events that happened. It's straight up gaslighting.

It's a very, very biased article that doesn't even attempt to do any kind of deep analysis and just tries to justify its stance by cherry picking, instead of actually looking at the facts and coming to a conclusion from there.

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[–] Caravaggio@feddit.nl 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I've been using mailbox.org for a couple of years now (a full switch from gmail to make sure I hadn't left anything over took me about a year), and I'm very happy with the service, can wholeheartedly recommend.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

https://mxroute.com/ if you need many different domains and email addresses but don't need a huge amount of space, very cheap and just works.

But if you have issues the guys who run it are quite rough and brutal, so support wil be tough on you and expect you know a lot about protocols, etc.

[–] terminal@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

I second mxroute. They are solid

[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Email isn't private. It was designed to be robust not private. Encryption never really caught on; and your counterparties using Gmail or some Microsoft server in the background will kill any expectation of privacy you might have.

WW II's Gordon Welchman is worth reading about. Similar nasty end as Turing. Not as well known as Turing but a similar contribution before the encryption was actually solved.

Have used Zoho for decades. Dozen domains, three/four actual accounts. Don't seem to have had any issues with them selling my info - use them with Addy.io. I don't gain anything from this reference/comment.

[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Posteo. Seems like it's missing love here. Simple, out of the way, it just works.

[–] ghostzero@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I would happily consider Posteo but the fact that they don't support custom domains is a deal breaker for me. That said, using an email aliasing service in front of it could be a solution.

If - for any reason - I want to move email providers, I don't want to change my email everywhere.

[–] Schorsch@feddit.org 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm using Posteo and have no reason to complain about anything. It pretty much just works. Few bells and whistles.

[–] banazir@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

I can second Posteo. Functional, affordable, FOSS, ecological and private enough for my needs.

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[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Been using Mailbox for years without any issue. German reliability. But the fact that one of Proton's directors revealed that he agrees with 75 million Americans does not mean that a whole company, based in Switzerland and with many other stakeholders, has "gone rogue". I'm not getting into a new fight about this here but I really think American progressives need to drop this religious approach to dissent and heterodoxy and just relax a little. It will be okay.

[–] CatsGoMOW@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It was the company’s official stance per their official social media account. Not just the CEO/one board member.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

It was the company’s official stance

The CEO is a big enough douche that I'll not migrate to them.

It was a stunt, by an idiot to try to gain favor with trump. He was probably trying for a cabinet position in his tech bro circle. If it's his intent, and he owns majority share, it's their intent.

If he doesn't own a majority share, they're all complicit

When PR rolled in to wash out the stain, he just ran is mouth about not being political, even though he was literally just political.

As far as the company goes, they outed an Activist, so they're not privacy first. They'll sell you up the river in a second if someone with any power or money asks.

They're private enough not to sell your data/eyes like google/microsoft (for now). I suspect if sony starts going after torrenters in this new world order we've got brewing, they wouldn't hesitate to out you.

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Are you kidding me right now? You call a fascist takeover a bit of "dissent" that we need to "relax a little" about?

You think the CEO of a privacy company coming out in support of a dictator who wants to erode rights and abolish privacy laws, and believes in jailing dissenters, to not have gone rogue?

We literally have American citizens being sent to an offshore military concentration camp so their lawful rights can be waived, and you think that's okay?!

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[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

Posteo ftw!

[–] mr_jaaay@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

I've been using Inbox.eu, provider from Latvia, for a few years now, specifically with my own domain. Was pretty easy to setup, and the support was also good when I messed up some DNS settings.

[–] Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fastmail has been treating me well. Unlimited aliases and masked emails are really the only features I use, but it’s got sort of the classic suite of productivity tools you’d expect. I self host equivalents of these, but for a drop in replacement for most of the g-suite it’s good without trying to be more than it needs to be.

[–] matron1049@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's great except it's hosted in Australia. Not really privacy focused.

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[–] whysofurious@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Another mailbox.org user here. I did the same switch as @caravaggio@feddit.nl around the same time and I can highly recommend as well. Setting up custom domains is also not hard and well documented in their knowledge-base. I am also using it for calendars and contacts with no issues at all. A plus of their premium (3€/month) plan, apart from custom domains, is that you have access to a series of other things (appointments, videoconferencing etc.) which are a nice thing to have if you need them (as an occasional teacher in academia I enjoyed having the options, especially since I could avoid Google/Microsoft stuff).

The only annoying thing is how they handle 2fa login on their website. I rarely need to login, but when I do I always suffer.

[–] BenchpressMuyDebil@szmer.info 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Shading7104@feddit.nl 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I am using startmail at the moment with a custom domainand am pleased but I do plan on migrating due to the cost for adding more mailboxes. So I am reading along here but from my research recently I personally also found Tuta attractive along with mailbox for their price and feature set. What has proton done by the way? I have never really trusted the organization but has something happened recently?

[–] anytimesoon@feddit.uk 3 points 4 months ago

I'm also looking to migrate and was recommended this service when I asked a similar question to OP. https://www.migadu.com/index.html

Unlimited inboxes. You're just limited to inbox space, but you can have multiple domains.

I'll be moving over to them when my current subscription runs out with my current provider

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 2 points 4 months ago

Proton's CEO seems to be a right-wing jackass.

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