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Trump melts down on Truth Social after judge says his denial "rings hollow and untrue" (www.salon.com)

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Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron on Thursday released a written order detailing why he determined Donald Trump's Wednesday sworn testimony denying that he attacked a court clerk "rings hollow and untrue" after he fined the former president $10,000 for his second violation of a partial gag order meant to protect courtroom staff.

The former president had claimed on the witness stand that he had been referring to his former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen as the "partisan" sitting "alongside" Engoron when he spoke to reporters outside the courtroom on Wednesday. But the judge was unconvinced, deeming that excuse "not credible."

"Witnesses do not sit 'alongside' the judge, they sit in the witness box, separated from the judge by a low wooden barrier," Engoron wrote in the order, obtained by The Messenger. "Further, Donald Trump's past public statements demonstrate him referring to Michael Cohen directly by his name, or by a derogatory name, but in all circumstances, he is unambiguous in making it known he is referring to Michael Cohen."

He added: "Using imprecise language as an excuse to create plausible ambiguity about whether defendant violated this Court's unequivocal gag order is not a defense; the subject of Donald Trump's public statement to the press was unmistakably clear."

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[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 189 points 8 months ago

Calling it now.

Trump Tower will be renamed: The Barack Hussain Obama Center for Multicultural and Gender Studies

[-] jrbaconcheese@yall.theatl.social 54 points 8 months ago

…For Kids Who Can’t Read Good

[-] gianni@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 months ago

This needs to be at least…. 3 times bigger!

[-] MermaidsGarden@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago

If there’s any justice in this world it will be

[-] Pistcow@lemm.ee 29 points 8 months ago

Wednesday night is Drag Queen night!

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Honestly. If I had the disposable income... I'd buy Trump Tower, and branding rights to "trump"... and then, like turn the tower into a homeless shelter.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

Apparently, Trump's naming rights are tied up in the Trump Org that's likely to be disbanded and sold off thanks to this case. So his own name could be sold to someone else to use. I'm really hoping some progressive group buys it just to open "Trump LGBTQ Safe Spaces." Though, at the same time, I don't think his name would make many feel "safe." So maybe "Trump Waste Removal Company"? Their slogan could be "We Know How To Deal With Massive Amounts of Garbage."

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[-] calabast@lemm.ee 18 points 8 months ago

I mean, I'd prefer "The Barack Hussain Obama Center for Children Who Can’t Read Good and Wanna Learn to Do Other Stuff Good Too" but I'll take anything at this point.

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[-] nicetriangle@kbin.social 160 points 8 months ago

He added: “Using imprecise language as an excuse to create plausible ambiguity about whether defendant violated this Court’s unequivocal gag order is not a defense; the subject of Donald Trump’s public statement to the press was unmistakably clear.”

Damn I really wanna see a lot more of this kinda scrutiny on the weasel word bullshit.

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[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 128 points 8 months ago

Judge calling him out for using toddler tactics. Nice.

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[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 127 points 8 months ago

"Hollow and Untrue" would be a great name for a Trump mini-series.

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 17 points 8 months ago

His niece really nailed it with Too Much and Never Enough

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[-] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 96 points 8 months ago

"Using imprecise language as an excuse to create plausible ambiguity about whether defendant violated this Court’s unequivocal gag order is not a defense; the subject of Donald Trump’s public statement to the press was unmistakably clear."

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

“Using imprecise language as an excuse to create plausible ambiguity about whether defendant violated this Court’s unequivocal gag order is not a defense; the subject of Donald Trump’s public statement to the press was unmistakably clear.”

Its also a harken back to what Cohen said. That he doesn't say things explicitly. He asks like a mob boss asks.

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[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 59 points 8 months ago

Why doesn't the crybaby bonespur loser just shut up and stop committing crimes for once? 😄

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

I still don't understand what makes Republicans going so deep into his ass: https://youtu.be/P4VwFYtltDw?t=5m13s

[-] HoustonHenry@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

I'm leaning towards him having dirt on the entire GOP (or most of 'em)

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 46 points 8 months ago

I think if Trump had direct dirt on them, he's too stupid to not blab it out at some point during all the infantile name-calling he calls "campaigning".

More likely is that Putin has kompromat on most of the GOP, and the threat of ol' Putin-on-the-Blitz giving that information to Trump is what allows him to hold on to their short and curlies.

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[-] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's pretty simple. He gets votes. Votes let them personally get money. Everything is on the table if it gets votes.

They will do anything to get votes because votes make them money personally, either directly with tax cuts, or via bribes for tax cuts.

Thats it.

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[-] uphillbothways@kbin.social 44 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Every time he gets fined he pulls millions in donations. Throw his ass in the can. Keep him there until his legal troubles are sorted. He's facing 90 something felonies. (think I've seen 91 and/or 94 different charges referred to.)

He should still be able to make most of his court appearances from MDC Brooklyn. They've dealt with high profile inmates plenty of times. Stop letting him play the legal system like a fiddle for personal gain.

[-] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

I honestly think the next time he runs afoul of the gag order he'll get a few days for contempt. Whether they'll be immediately suspended pending appeal I don't know, but it's one of the things a judge can do to enforce order immediately and without a lot of oversight. There's case after case of some perp mouthing off to the judge and immediately earning a few weeks in jail and Trump has had $15k worth of warnings now. The next offense should be a hotel stay.

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[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 39 points 8 months ago

Trump melts down

FINALLY!

on Truth Social

…oh. Guess the celebrations will have to be postponed again.

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[-] Veneroso@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago

If he gets time in jail he could write a book about his struggle. "My Struggle"

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[-] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 34 points 8 months ago

but this Judge and his 'boss,' Letitia Peekaboo James

He just had to get that borderline racist little dig in, didn’t he.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

Yep. "Downfall", the bunker scene. With Trump sitting at the desk.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 months ago

"Downfall", the bunker scene. With Trump sitting at the desk.

Dormak and Jalad, at Tanagra.

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[-] paddirn@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

I imagine it's more like him sitting on a toilet, furiously typing away on his phone. He'd be fat-fingering his phone if not for the fact that he has such small hands.

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[-] ohmyiv@lemmy.world 31 points 8 months ago

When are we going to start having mental health/psychological examinations for our politicians? I feel that should be a minimum requirement.

[-] knobbysideup@lemm.ee 19 points 8 months ago

A TS/SCI background investigation would cover it. One would think the commander in chief should be able to hold a security clearance. Then there's Ivanka and Jared with China and the Saudis. But hunter biden did what?

[-] Neato@kbin.social 15 points 8 months ago

That would be abused as quickly as a poll test would.

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[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 22 points 8 months ago

Trump should be treated the same as the shit that goes down my kitchen sink and I flip a switch to shred and drain it.

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 26 points 8 months ago

You're shitting in the kitchen sink?

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[-] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 15 points 8 months ago

Good on the judge.

Scumbags like Trump thrive in the gaps and ambiguities that normal decency shouldn't have to fill. They break down standards of decency that shouldn't have to be codified.

Authoritarians and people who need authority will do anything they can get away with - but we can't write laws for every single little scheme anyone could ever come to up with.

We need guiding principles and a respect for the spirit of the law.

Trump tried to play innocent but it doesn't count in the courtroom.

His audience can't help him in there.

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 15 points 8 months ago

Trump melts down…

Good.

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[-] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

I wonder if Trump could even define plausible ambiguity.

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