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[–] colourlesspony@pawb.social 99 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It says pick all squares that contain street light so it counts because it contains part of a street light. I get these wrong like 50 percent of the time so IDK.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 55 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But you know who doesn't get these wrong? Bots!

(Source: experimented with Skyvern)

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

Yeah, because these aren't to stop bots. They're to train bots.

[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I used to do this but have learned (like a fucking machine) that its best not to as that gives me a better success rate.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good thing self-driving cars were trained on your data!

(Flashback to that Will Smith movie…)

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Flashback to that Will Smith movie…

I fail to see the connection between self-driving car data and Will Smith blasting aliens with a tiny gun.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It was oblique.

The robot deciding to save the protagonist vs the girl based on algorithms/statistics, compared with self-driving cars deciding how to react at traffic lights (and save you or not) because they learnt from your decisions in captchas.

[–] kubica@fedia.io 11 points 1 month ago

Or... you got it right but they take the chance and ask again to grab info about how you solve some more.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 54 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I suck at these, apparently. I especially hate the motorcycles, but this goes for almost anything. Do I select the tile with just some wheel in it? Is the wheel a motorcycle too? What about the rider, are they the motorcycle? I mean, when a bike passes you on the road, you don't say "I got passed by a motorcycle and its rider". What about the pole the traffic light is on, does that count as part of the traffic light? I end up doing them for like ten minutes until my wife comes over and gets it first try.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

do motorbikes and mopeds count as motorcycles?

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

They do but shouldn't. I had a captcha scooter recently.

Note: They didn't ask me to find the "scooter" squares.

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[–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Highly recommend Buster extension. You click on it and it uses the audio version and solves it for you. Works like 95% of the time.

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 22 points 1 month ago

Ah, so we can now use an automated robotic script to prove we're human? :)

[–] ramjambamalam@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (6 children)

That was interesting, and l liked the one it links to at the end, Staying Alive, even better.

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If I protect the body it’s “why does the soul need a body” and if I don’t protect the body it’s “how does reconstructing the body make sure the soul comes with it” it’s a catch-22 is what it is.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's just meant to be a thought exercise.

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[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did it say anything about needing a soul to survive?

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It doesn't define what a body without a soul is at all. If we are to presume a soul exists, as the question instructs us to, then we need the variable information of what those without souls who are unfrozen become. It feels like they're forcing assumptions where no justification for said assumptions are made.

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[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's weird, I followed the instructions too closely opposed to basing it on emotional response. Not sure whether i would answer differently responding emotionally. I'm only in 7% agreement with the sample population lol!

I find the statistics mildly disturbing on the last query.

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah the last question was the only one I deviated from the majority on.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I have noticed that the chances of success increase if one "forgets" the ever so slightly in squares or things like bicycle handlebars.

I get the impression that perfectionists have to purposefully make mistakes to count as humans in these things.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago

I now take a rapid fire who cares if it’s wrong approach to these. If I bother at all…

[–] And009@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 month ago

Yep, my OCD kicked nuts hate it

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Overthinking is a sign of not being a bot

[–] danekrae@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

sleep(10);

print("You might be right.")

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Depending on the language, that might only sleep for 10 milliseconds, outing you as bot for sure.

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[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It's based on whatever the majority of humans using captcha say. They ask multiple question on the captcha. Some are testing you on. Some they don't know and give to multiple people to figure out which boxes should be selected

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ok. So is there enough streetlight in the square?

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Should be yes, but the human is only interested in getting passed the prompt, not with accuracy so it's no. Which I'm pretty sure fucks with their AI training, but who cares.

[–] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

If the majority of those given that specifc question say so, then yes

If the majority given it say no, then no

There's no predefined answer here

One of creators of the captchas said in an interview that they themselves were never sure about the edges and if they should include it or not

[–] paequ2 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Gaaah! Wait! What's the answer?? Sometimes I click that square, but other random times I don't.

[–] Matshiro@szmer.info 13 points 1 month ago

The answer is the time and decision making, not correct choices.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 6 points 1 month ago

There are 5 lights.

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're determining the answer by training Google's AI

[–] zedgeist@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If we're supposed to be telling the AI what's right, why do we so often get it "wrong?"

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I've found that if its only the tiniest bit then not to click. U also gotta account for the object hitboxes being rectangular. I have been trained by a machine in how to convince the machine I am human by lieing to it thus training the machine more wrong. A perfect case of misalignment lol.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It really does not matter is what I learned, I just click whatever I see in 1 second and that is it. I will have to redo some, but I always had to do that. So I stopped wasting any time.

[–] Arigion@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I always thought street lights ≠ traffic lights?

[–] Allero 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that's just the comic author

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Audio captcha -> open-source* speech-to-text -> cursor inserts the captcha for me, w/o an extra dedicated CAPTCHA add on some of the corresponding potential hassles

(Closed-source superwhisper + Keyboard Maestro also make this a breeze on Mac :) )

* ggerganov/ whisper.cpp - Port of OpenAI's Whisper model in C/C++

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[–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago

Just try to do the worst posible just to pass it but at the same time fuck up the AI mind

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

These are made so the lowest denominator can pass. Both options usually work.

[–] kernelle@0d.gs 5 points 1 month ago

I've had to do 30 captchas in a row on Microsoft services, talk about testing patience lmao

[–] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

I always pick the lowest possible effort to fill this shit.

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