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put that in your pipe and smoke it (mander.xyz)
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Monotropa uniflora: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotropa_uniflora

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[–] Ashen44@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh my god, this brought back memories!

I had a book as a small child about various weird plants. Pitcher plants, water lilies, stuff like that. I remember reading about a plant with no chlorophyll called the ghost plant or something and thinking it was the coolest thing ever, but I could never find that book again. This was also before I knew how to use the internet so I had no way of looking up the plant, thanks for reminding me of it!

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

did you know all orchids mycohetrotrophs, they all depend on fungus to germinate, because thier seeds are like tiny and have no food source. some orchids. had taken it further and become something similar like this plant, no chorophyll. we can cultivate phalnopolis(and sell them as house plants) because these are one of the few ones we can artificially germinate the plant, and gastrodia elata is one of the species of fully mycohetrophs that can be cultivated, the other species in the same genus, not so much, very difficult(because they need specific fungal specie and conditions).

its unheard for other mycoheterotrops for the same reason.

[–] AffineConnection@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

These are very common where I live. Until now, I only knew about the common name "Indian pipe."

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago

These look like toilet paper rolls.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 101 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I get most of the tweet but not the "who would post this?" part.

Wouldn't everybody post it?

[–] match@pawb.social 11 points 6 days ago

that part exists as clickbait

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Jim Rose circus is a famous counter-culture performance. At the show I saw a woman put paint in her butt and farted it onto a canvas. There was also light bulb eating, further nudity, chainsaw juggling etc

In that context, it would be surprising to see them tweet about botany, making this kinda a joke tweet in itself that they would tweet this, which is why it has the commentary.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

Ah thanks for the context!!

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No only super special nerds like me, I'm so quirky.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

the only difference is that non-nerds would likely include a sentence about how it's the only cure for gout or something, for extra clicks

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Mycoheterotrophs are also quite uncommon and rare in some areas, so pulling them out is discouraged. Although uniflora is common in some parts, it doesn't flower like a normal plant

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 74 points 1 week ago

Unlike most plants, it is white and does not contain chlorophyll.[9] Instead of generating food using the energy from sunlight, it is parasitic, and more specifically a mycoheterotroph. Its hosts are in the Russulaceae family.[9] Most fungi are mycorrhizal, meaning that they grow symbiotically in association with tree roots. Through the fungal web of mycorrhizae, the M. uniflora roots ultimately sap food from where the host fungi are connected to the photosynthetic trees.

Sick. Note that plants generally fall on a spectrum between food-generating from sunlight and parasitism through their roots; though generally, plants don't just steal nutrients from fungi, they exchange nutrients with them, i.e. it's a mutualistic relationship.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They're really cool little plants, I see them sometimes on trails when out hiking and it's always a treat.

Link to one of the times I saw it hiking.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There's rarer ones like in the family, like gnome plant and hypotytis, and the famous snow plant. Fun fact orchids are partial mycoheterotrophs, and some species have become much the same way as these plants, lost all its chlorophyll, the sad thing is mycoheterotph in general are quite rare, as their associated with specific fungus and environment. I think the Chinese have managed to cultivate one species of gastrodia orchid( full mycoheterotroph), the others are very rare species, and a lot are recently discovered, because they don't show up every year

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They look so sad with their heads hanging down looking at the ground

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

sad parasites

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 25 points 1 week ago

Monotropa uniflora, also known as ghost plant, ghost pipe, or Indian pipe, is an herbaceous, parasitic, non-photosynthesizing, perennial flowering plant native to temperate regions of Asia, North America, and northern South America, but with large gaps between areas.

[–] andrewth09@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Walter H. Prest described the plant as having an asparagus-like flavor once cooked.

Yeah I would expect this to just instantly kill me.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 days ago

maybe he did as well

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

So is it in anyway related to mushroom?

[–] juliebean@lemm.ee 25 points 6 days ago

it's a plant, but rather than photosynthesizing, it is what's called a mycoheterotroph, which means it gets its nutrients by siphoning stuff from fungal networks in the soil, so, sorta?

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It is a plant, just of a sort that has turned to parasitism I suppose for its nutrients. I believe they are part of a larger family of plants named saprophytes.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The other person is correct in calling it a mycohrtetotroh, sporophyte implies it lives of decaying plant matter which it doesn't. Plants like these are interesting, no chlorophyll, what your seeing is only the flower and stem, the leaves are highly vestigial, there's no main stem

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Ah! Thanks for the clarification. I should've done a side-search to check before posting.

Hmm, wikipedia says... "... Instead of generating food using the energy from sunlight, it is parasitic, and more specifically a mycoheterotroph" though.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

this species tend to be "more common" but its very unusual that it shows up on different continents, but not in a continious population, disjunct its called. it occurs north america all the way to china, russia, india, ,,etc. but tends to be rare consider how fickle these plants are(super specific fungi and environment). thier seeds are most similar to orchids(which can be partial or full mycoheterotroph). fun fact there used to be another type of mycohetroph in the americas, this is even more unusual since its mostly found in asia(around 100+ species i think a ton got discovered in the last few years i have been keeping up with this genus is really interesting) thismia americana was suppose to grow in lake calumut area, but it went shortly extinct(that we know of) after it was discovered, they had been trying to find this plant ever since, 1912(by Pfiffer)(another species in asia wasnt seen for 151 years after it was discovered until 2017(South america has thier own thismia(but its likely they are a different genus ). because mycohetereotrophs are rarely seen plants,(you wouldnt know its there unless flowering), like a normal plant you know its there even without leaves, it has stems, branches etc.

i was on the sub for plant ID, and they had gnome plant once posted(pretty rare in the redwood forest in the north west pacific coast), and monotropa hypotytis.

[–] crypt0cler1c@infosec.pub -3 points 6 days ago

Ghost Pipe is a fungi.

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

It has the same chemical in it aspirin does when you metabolize aspirin, so it's good as an anti-inflammatory.

Edit: after doing a little bit more research and being corrected below, I am editing this.

While ghost pipe has been used as traditional medicine, and some people still use it as traditional medicine, it could also be toxic.

[–] anzo@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And it has glycosides too! So it may also be toxic to humans.

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, I actually picked up on that yesterday.

Someone that sent to traditional medicine gave me some. I think I will avoid it in the future.

And I edited my comments above to reflect that this morning

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

Totally thought I was replying to a different thread lol. Ugh brain.

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know where you heard that but it's incorrect

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanism_of_action_of_aspirin

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I appreciate the correction. I'm not sure where I found that about endocannabinoids.

Anyway, ghost pipe does contain an aspirin metabolite and is medicinal. It also may be toxic.

Actually don't suggest using it as traditional medicine and I will add that to my original comment.

[–] K0W4LSK1@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So can we smoke it?

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Only once.