Isn't his plan to upset the current world order? What's not working exactly?
I know nations have been banding together to figure out how to operate without the support of the US, but that alone seems to me like it's working.
this post was submitted on 02 Mar 2025
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Exactly which realistic expectations about trump are unmet?
For those of us who have bern paying attention this is very much what we said would happen.
That conspiracy that Trump was recruited by the Soviets as an agent in the 1980s is sounding less and less of a conspiracy every day.
Trumpism is working exactly as intended and must be destroyed.
Exactly. trump was intended to destroy America from within. It is working perfectly in that regard.
Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio or make a track on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide.
-Abraham Lincoln, Lyceum address
It's working perfectly, it just runs counter to American interests. None of this is happening by accident.
As if another 4yrs was needed to come to the most obvious conclusion.
The US will be fortunate if it is only 4
We may not last 4 years. It's only been 2 months.
It's only been 6 weeks...
Its working as intended for russia and china
I have been wondering what kind of dirt Russia/China have on these guys for them to behave so profoundly un-American.
Russia has been grooming Trump since the 80s. You think Trump of all people is a good business man? There is a reason so many businesses he had failed. Russian money laundering. The man knew how to create business, funnel money, then bankrupt them.
iirc he's still carrying over losses on taxes from those many years ago.
It may be dirt, but I don’t think they need to have dirt on a guy like Trump. Trump is 100% transactional. As long as Russia rewards Trump for his efforts, he has zero qualms with fucking over his own country. He’s an evil piece of shit and Russia aligns with his financial goals.
The simplest explanation is that they both have significant business interests in Russia and China and that archived video of their weird dicks are in Vladimir Putin’s classic film collection next to his Wild Wild West laserdisc, which he meticulously alphabetizes.
What about what they’re doing is “un-American”? Sure it goes against the idea of what US propaganda says it’s like there but this is what it’s always been at the core. They’re just saying it outloud now.
The US has always been an “I got mine” state. It’s reaping what it’s sown.
Domestically, mostly, but this is a huge acceleration - end game style.
One of the great (and frustrating) features of functioning/stable democracies is that the ruling party typically can't change too much too fast. So there are minor changes, pulling the country a little here, and a little there. It's hard to royally fuck up a country in these stable democracies... but the US is no longer a stable democracy.
The USA's international policy has been pretty consistent for a LONG time, no matter the ruling party. Spreading democracy (sometimes far better than at home), fighting terrorism/drugs/axis of evil, etc. through a mix of soft power, military power, and international institutes (more soft power). The aim was always to make/keep America (and in particular the 1%) rich and powerful.
What we are seeing now is the destruction of US influence and power abroad. It's a successful (almost certainly) russian operation, now led by team trump.
Domestically, it should result in an uproar... class and civil warfare, destroying the final illusions of American Values. But a strong minority (100 protestors is enough with a little camera work) will scream and shout for more face eating, and the troops will intervene on their behalf, ensuring that the majority line up peacefully to watch the leopards. Even the best case scenarios are pretty grim. The trajectory has been set (many years ago now) and the ball is rolling faster than ever.
It's not fair to call this trumpism. Give credit where it's due - this is putinism.
The thing I find fascinating is that normally fascism is a self-destructive attempt to increase a nation's power whereas here the goal is to weaken and break the power of the US.
As everyone is pointing out, it's achieving that goal.
Would be worried if it is working
Who knew turning America into North Korea wouldn't cause it to flourish?
No way.