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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I said from the beginning that the tpm 2.0 requirement was a way to make people buy new pc's. Good news for me who wants a laptop upgrade.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 12 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Or get a new laptop and switch to Linux!

[–] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 hours ago

That's what I'm doing. Framework for the win

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm already using linux, but my laptop is an older dell with a 5th? Gen i5 dual core. Still works fine, but i had to jankily push down on the keyboard ribbon cable with a piece of cardboard, still has sata ssd, screen could be nicer, bezels are an inch wide, etc. This an oportunity to get an uograde if companies are going to dump perfectly good hardware.

Valid. I just but PopOS on my Lenovo and it works perfectly. Hell I put it on an old surface book too and it works great lol

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[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ltsc iot win10 is supported for years to come 🏴‍☠️

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[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 24 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

What a coincidence - I stopped supporting it too!

[–] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com 16 points 8 hours ago

You should have thrown Windows away at the beginning of the century.

[–] SolidShake@lemmy.world -3 points 2 hours ago

i like how you made up a quote from the post.

[–] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 92 points 12 hours ago (9 children)
[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

I'm trying but the girlfriend refuses. She watches YouTube on the TV and does everything else on her phone; literally only uses the laptop to play The Sims 4 (which her 1080ti can handle just fine), yet she's convinced that she will need a brand new gaming machine with a 4090/5090 as soon as Microsoft dumps WIn10. She's afraid that she'll completely break the OS if she switches to Linux. (Which is plausible, though unlikely.

I'm hoping she'll change her mind as soon as she realizes just how much more GPUs cost these days, especially mobile ones.

[–] vii@programming.dev 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Create a live USB stick and demonstrate it to her, without deleting Windows. Bonus points if you rice the fuck out of it with some kawaii shit for your GF and make Sims 4 work with Wine.

[–] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Wine need not apply. That's old school. Sims 4 works great in proton. Basically just install steam and the rest is handled.

Better yet, install bazzite as your distro, gaming works out of the box.

[–] CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Proton is based on Wine, when people say Wine in a gaming context, there's a decent chance they just mean Proton. Also there's absolutely no need for gaming distros in this situation, gaming works out of the box on any (semi-normal) distro, the most you'll have to do is flick a switch in Steam.

Edit: Or in this case with the Sims install Lutris I guess, since it's an EA game, but that also isn't much more difficult

[–] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

That's fair, I'm a bit uninformed on wine and proton's roots. However I'd argue that for someone like OPs girlfriend, a somewhat-immutable atomic based distro like bazzite might be better. Especially if it's only used for gaming and YouTube 🤷‍♂️

But different strokes for different folks, so perhaps they'd be better off just installing steam on their distro of choice 👍

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[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Install win 10 LTSC

[–] unlearned0653@startrek.website 7 points 7 hours ago

Use an immutable distro so even if she breaks it it's easily fixed

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[–] Darkmoon_UK@lemm.ee 117 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (12 children)

Weird hill to die on perhaps; but I'll never forgive Microsoft for arbitrarily deciding to not support my Core i7 6700K 4Ghz CPU on Windows 11.

Simply because: I cannot find a single actual technical reason why it wouldn't be compatible (yes, my mobo also has TPM). It's even higher specced than many other 'supported' chips.

MS apparently just decided I hadn't spent enough money lately. Well now I won't - on your products - ever again, while this i7 will continue to run Win 10 for games and Linux for all else.

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

assuming you use steam, see which of your favorite games run with proton compatability layer and which absolutely require windows. You may be suprised.

[–] sporkler@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

I run everything on steam with proton that I did on my windows PC, nothing was left behind. If you 'add a game' from outside steam, you can run the installer and then change the game location to the executable. Ubuntu or Ubuntu mate are what I install on everything. Recommend.

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[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 12 hours ago (14 children)

Gaming is great on Linux nowadays btw. I installed Fedora a few weeks ago and haven't had a single problem with any of my games - I'm getting better framerates, too.

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Before you recycle your Windows 10 PC (or just switch to Linux and avoid wasting resources), keep in mind while Windows 10 22H2 is ending in 7 months, 21H2 LTSC Enterprise is still good for 1 year 10 months:

https://endoflife.date/windows

To download the 21H2 LTSC, go here:

https://archive.org/details/en-us_windows_10_enterprise_ltsc_2021_x64_202301

Then generate a free license key using the Ohook or KMS38 methods via PowerShell as explained here:

https://massgrave.dev/

Disclaimer: I haven't tried this myself so there may be some bugs/issues along the way. For my next laptop, I'm thinking about switching to Linux and specifically Ubuntu or Fedora, so this won't really impact me

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