Europe

Yea people don't realize there are several different start/ends to it all over the world, not just 1 "everyone change it" and tons of special cases too. Terrible

Ain't that right. Going through it with our first this week and I get it. Of course the little guy is ticked off. He's feeling all of the confusion and tiredness we are without knowing or enjoying any of the benefits.

Programmer as well and fuck that shit.

My cats are used to a very specific schedule.. now they're gonna wake me up 1 hour early for the next many weeks. Great!

the act of changing clocks twice a year is profoundly fucked up to people’s circadian rhythms .

as well as the government deciding for you, what time it is, is kind of orwellian when i think about it.

i want my body to adapt naturally to the sync of the sun, i think we all could use a little bit more nature.

As a programmer, I would never put anything except UTC or Unix time into a computer program or database. The front end can show the user whatever localized bullshit they want to see.

Every year when the clocks change people are cranky and start demanding this kind of thing be eliminated. Politicians capitalize on it and say they will do something about it. In a couple of weeks everyone forgets about it.

In the end, the government can't do anything about the tilt of the Earth and there is no time system that can be devised that will make everyone happy. Many people like having more light in the evening and wouldn't be happy if DST were eliminated. People are going to be cranky for a couple of weeks in the year but it's generally considered worth putting up with so people have more daylight in the evening rather than having it before they wake up.

India? You mean the "+05:30" timezone? I'd rather not deal with that :30 tbh. I like having my timezone arithmetics quite simple, just adding and subtracting hours. A half hour offset is worse to me than having to switch which offsets to use when. (Still better than Australia Central Western with its +08:45, but that's a low bar to clear.)

Changing working hours would be decided by individual businesses and inconsistencies on this would be a logistical nightmare. Delivery of materials are suddenly an hour later and you have a bunch of people standing around with nothing to do. Or maybe it's earlier than usual and it comes before your business is open.

Signage about business hours would have to be changed twice per year. A customer not aware of the change in business hours may show up too early or two late.

And it would be an insane amount of work to change all the schedules of automated systems to conform with business hour changes that happen twice per year.

So to avoid these kinds of problems you need the entire society to change their schedules consistently. It's easier to change the clocks than to change everything other than the clocks.

Sure, but then the question is: Winter time or summer time?

I'm not sure if the European people are equally united in this question.

I very never heard anyone discussing this in real life outside of maybe 6 days a year. Much less so since smartphones became people's primary clocks since they auto adjust.

People also don't agree on which time should be kept.

That's true, no-one likes it. But the attempts to end it got stuck on democracy, unfortunately. People were inable to get behind one solution. Some countries prefered to keep the natural time, some wanted the summer time. There are reasons for both approaches and lots and lots of emotions. It was unreasonable to let different EU countries addopt different time systems, so the whole idea to get rid of the time changes was scrapped.

If the EU abolishes DST in its member states, there won't be any patches or updates necessary to software out there. The timezone database will simply be updated to reflect the change of policy and bam, once your system has the new tzdata, restart your apps and they will automatically understand it. This is not like the Y2K bug that needed actual patches.