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Summary

Most European countries moved clocks forward one hour on Sunday, marking the start of daylight saving time (DST), a practice increasingly criticized.

Originally introduced during World War I to conserve energy, DST returned during the 1970s oil crisis and now shifts Central European Time to Central European Summer Time.

Despite a 2018 EU consultation where 84% of nearly 4 million respondents supported abolishing DST, implementation stalled due to member state disagreement.

Poland, currently holding the EU presidency, plans informal consultations to revisit the issue amid broader geopolitical priorities.

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[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They need to seriously quit this bullshit. It serves no practical purpose in our modern society, while also having tangible negative effects. So why keep doing it?

I enthusiastically support getting rid of this nonsense.

[–] rice@lemmy.org 5 points 1 day ago

it never actually served a practical purpose. It was argued about then, too.

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

More daylight in summer rocks. It would be equally rocking in Winter. The clocks shoud stay forward.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

But wouldn't it be neat if midnight was att 00:00 and mid day was 12:00?

Also, you don't get more daylight by moving the clock. You get more clock.

[–] Flashback956@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago

I fucking hate it

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

I have a taxi company. On one night, one of my drivers did two jobs, one dispatched at 00:15, the other at 00:45, and he clocked off at 02:15. How long was he working for?

A) 1 hour

B) 2 hours

C) 3 hours

D) 2 hours 30 minutes

E) any of the above

[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

American here, trick question, it's E. Irrelevant, the driver is only paid through tips and the employer doesn't pay payroll taxes, so his working hours are of no consequence.

[–] rice@lemmy.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] misteloct@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Right, he worked 1 hours, then 2, then 3, then 2.5, then (1, then 2, ... (...)) without any breaks!

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[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The simple fact is that on the Monday after DST starts, more people have heart attacks and strokes.

Meaning that not going away from it means people will continue to die from it.

[–] Kuma@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would have never known if it wasn't because a coworker told me or because of articles like these. My cat wakes me up at 7- 7:30 and he did that this morning too, so I was very surprised that I slept only 7 hours instead of 8 (before I knew). But the funnits part is that my cat followed DST haha

[–] Opisek@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Your cat must be in on the conspiracy. Perhaps even part of the deep state.

[–] manicdave@feddit.uk 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The thing I don't get is why it happens in the summer rather than the winter.

In the UK it gets dark at about 4pm in winter. We basically get no leisure time during daylight but we do get a bit of light during getting ready for work time when we don't really need it.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

In the US they claim it's about kids walking to school/the bus stop

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

It's all a plot by Big Torch!

[–] ynthrepic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'll take 7 hour workdays in summer instead.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 61 points 2 days ago (9 children)

I will never understand why people want the time we only use for 3 months to be the time we use for the whole year. I would rather people just be able to admit that December is dark (for the northern hemisphere) and we can do shit at a different time.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 81 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I literally couldn’t care less which time we pick, I just want the madness to STOP

[–] Eclippsiss@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Totally this discussion has been going on for ages let's just say its dumb in this fay and age and stop it.

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

wdym 3 months? both CET and CEST are used approximately half a year

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 days ago (4 children)

In North America DST is used from second Sunday of March until first Sunday of November.

This means there are 239 days in DST, and 126 days out of DST in 2025. Close to 2 to 1 ratio.

I know it's different with CEST and CET, and it sucks even more donkeyballs there, when the sun sets around 4PM (instead of 5) regardless.

DST should really be the standard in most places. You want more sunlight in the afternoon, not in the morning.

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I live in a non-DST area and it is very nice

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[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 39 points 2 days ago (14 children)

To people thinking of enforcing UTC around the globe:

obligatory: https://qntm.org/abolish

Before I read this article, I also thought it would be a great idea to get rid of timezones entirely and just use UTC for everything. To quote from the link,

Abolishing time zones brings many benefits, I hope. It also:

  • causes the question “What time is it there?” to be useless/unanswerable
  • necessitates significant changes to the way in which normal people talk about time
  • convolutes timetables, where present
  • means “days” (of the week) are no longer the same as “days”
  • complicates both secular and religious law
  • is a staggering inconvenience for a minimum of five billion people
  • makes it near-impossible to reason about time in other parts of the world
  • does not mean everybody gets up at the same time, goes to work at the same time, or goes to bed at the same time
  • is not simpler.

As long as humans live in more than one part of the world, solar time is always going to be subjective. Abolishing time zones only exacerbates this problem.

(copied from one of my 9-month old comments)

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 days ago

I mean the best refute of it I've ever heard is that the date changes in the middle of the day, and that sounds miserable

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Wasn't DST invented in America? How did it even get adopted by the EU?

I'm also seeing that it was formerly used in Russia, India, South America, and some parts of Africa, and it is still used in 4/5ths of Canada and 1/3 of Australia.

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[–] withabeard@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (29 children)

Mid-day should be the middle of the day. Mid-night should be the middle of the night.

If you like more light in the ~~evening~~ morning go to bed late and wake up late. If you like light in the ~~morning~~ evening, go to bed early and wake up early.

Stop fucking with the clocks and making nonsensible decisions

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 79 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Mid-day should be the middle of the day. Mid-night should be the middle of the night.

You'd need new clocks, those times drift every day, so 12:00 midday would need to change automatically.

[–] zerofatorial@lemm.ee 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah this comment makes no sense lol who is upvoting this?

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

my problem with that is thats not really up to me, if i have to be up for work or down for work in a given time. and id love to leave work and have a bit of sunlight left.

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