It’s to avoid having to find the Trump admin in contempt of court when they inevitably announce they haven’t done anything to bring him back
It’s the Wile E. Coyote school of politics. As long as we don’t look down there is no constitutional crisis.
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That was the case in the USIP case, basically "look if I rule against the government they're gonna do it anyway and that's an Official Constitutional Crisis™ and we can't have that for whatever reason".
Fuck, somebody ping me when it's violence o'clock at this point. I'm bored.
Fr. The constitution is dead, can we recognize that and get on with burying the thing so we can move on?
Sure but i think there is this fear that once it's "Officially" declared that may be the signal thousands of chuds are waiting for to gear up and go to town on their neighbors. They are going to dance around this endlessly until a corner is backed into.
Sure but i think there is this fear that once it's "Officially" declared that may be the signal thousands of chuds are waiting for to gear up and go to town on their neighbors.
I don't think this is what they're worried about. That's just bringing back the Klan.
I think, as mundane as it sounds, what they are worried about is bureaucratic capacity. Not in the sense of state agencies particularly, but the entire mass of corporations, NGOs, and state institution which operate within this legal regime. As a property owner, it gives you tremendous reach. Is your tenant is behind on rent? Effectively all you need to do is make one phone call and there will be armed goons busting down their door. But not even. You're not making that phone call, the management company you hired is, for a cut. You effectively shake down hundreds of tenants every month and you don't even need to lift a finger.
This is what they are afraid of losing. This ability to delegate violence through a dozen layers of intermediaries and plausible deniability while still maintaining control. The end of the US Republic will significantly curtail this power. It won't be enough to simply hold the deed to all the water in California and conjure an army of lawyers to explain to the judge that they need to conjure an army of cops to arrest you, then conjure an army of corrections officers to slip moldy sandwiches into your cage. It will require old school gangster shit. Whoever carves out a position of power for themselves will need to be much more personally connected with the violence. There are plenty of violent people (powerful ones, even) who would be just fine with this, but overall it would be a major loss in the centralization of power needed to maintain an empire.
So, our current political system with more honesty about what it really is.
Waiting until the tariffs tank the economy might be a smart move tho skeleton_waiting_in_chair.jpg
“Breathing room.” This ruling is going to be a doozy.
I can't wait for right-wing legal experts to comment on what will surely be a horrific ruling.
"The public at large has misconceptions about what due process actually means..." and they justify the GOP justices' ruling that anybody in the US can get kidnapped off the street, kept in an unknown location, shackled like Gitmo prisoner, and then sent 1,000s of miles away to another country to live a life of torment in a hell prison.
One of the people speaking is Tricia McLaughlin. She's a comms person for Homeland. She has no Wikipedia page and I can't tell if she's a lawyer or not. She's probably not.
As Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, Tricia McLaughlin oversees the Department of Homeland Security’s public outreach, including its media, digital, strategic and crisis communications efforts, and serves as the principal advisor to Secretary Noem on all external and internal communications.
NPR doesn't exactly says she's just a comms person. Fucking NPR - they say...
Tricia McLaughlin — assistant secretary for public affairs at the Department of Homeland Security — said the Trump administration's deportations are legal.
Due to her job she already appears on Fox News and CNN.
Maybe I was wrong before. Maybe the right-wing "legal experts" on CNN and such won't even have law degrees. They'll simply be right-wingers who are attractive and telegenic and Aryan.
Look folks, he’s not saying he’s definitely going to rule one way or the other, he’s just saying that the government needs some time to ask El Salvador to have this guy killed so they can dismiss the case
Legit, this is what I think they're going to do. The El Salvador president and Trump sure as hell don't want someone coming back from that place and doing an interview about the mass torture camp, with 100% free speech to speak the truth.
It's unfortunate the Democrats couldn't pack the court. Wouldn't want to impugn its legitimacy.
the parliamentarian would never have allowed it
Look forward to a bunch of news articles explaining this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_question
Most recently, courts ruled that it was totally okay for Obama to murder innocent people in Yemen, based on a precedent formed when Bill Clinton got away with bombing a pharmaceuticals factory in Sudan. And then there was the case where the Supreme Court said it was fine for border patrol pigs to murder people. And, finally, the case where they said U.S. companies can do child slavery as long as it's not here.
I am not a lawyer, which is why I'm letting myself get away with saying "totally okay" and "can do child slavery." The previous decisions are a mixture of "evil shit the president does abroad is a political question that courts can't interfere with" and "people harmed by U.S. agents while not on U.S. soil have no standing to sue in U.S. courts." I don't know what horrible thing they'll say about this kidnapping, but the above cases are the ones I'd expect to be used to grant it a fig leaf for rules and norms purposes.
Love how there is no law in the entire world or question that can be asked about a law that is not in some way a Political Question.
Pretty sure it was like a week ago when liberals were telling me how Roberts was actually a voice of moderation on the court.