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[–] Tilted@programming.dev 138 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Is this guy really the great new hope for the GOP? He seems to be a completely clueless buffoon who lacks any sense of decency. I guess it checks out.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There was fear on the left and hope on the right that DeSantis would be "smart Trump." Just as evil as Trump is, but with more brains to be able to pull stuff off and less likely to be distracted by petty rivalries.

Since then, DeSantis has shown that he's not as smart as people thought he was, definitely can't sway crowds like Trump can, and is absolutely willing to pursue petty rivalries even when they don't benefit him.

[–] norb@lem.norbz.org 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

definitely can’t sway crowds like Trump can

I think this is the biggest issue. He doesn't have the charisma that Trump does. While I've found most of Trump's nicknames for people pretty stupid, "Meatball Ron" is on point.

[–] Slwh47696@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't know what the fuck Trump has, but it's certainly not charisma. The guy can barely form a coherent thought when he's speaking, makes a fool out of himself every time he speaks, and is pretty much wrong about everything he says.

Still somehow has millions of people voting for him, so maybe it is some bizzaro reverse charisma or something.

[–] norb@lem.norbz.org 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

charisma

kə-rĭz′mə

noun

  • A rare personal quality attributed to leaders who arouse fervent popular devotion and enthusiasm.
  • Personal magnetism or charm.

Is he charming? Depends on preference I think. Does he "arouse fervent popular devotion and enthusiasm"? Absolutely. Why? Hard to say exactly (again, personal preference) but he fits the dictionary definition of "charismatic" to a T.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's charisma. Just because it doesn't appeal to you doesn't mean it's not charisma.

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[–] OverfedRaccoon@lemm.ee 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The good news is, Republicans aren't really about pursuing wokeness as much anymore. But polling also suggests they're much more in favor of Trump still, somehow, in spite of everything. So that's the other shoe dropping. They're back on their "law and order," unless the law and order is coming down on Trump, it seems. 😂

[–] mriguy@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“Law and order” has always only meant “keep undesirables (minorities, leftists, workers) afraid and under constant threat of violence”. It has never meant “actually hold everyone equally accountable to the law”.

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[–] HellAwaits@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are other polls by Republicans that said wokeness is their top priority. I'm not sure what one poll does for this narrative. I'm not entirely convinced Republicans aren’t really about pursuing wokeness as much anymore.

I think DeSantis made have hurt that movement a little by being an incompetent moron.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I think trying to figure out their actual top priority is a fool's errand, because they have no idea. Seriously, I don't think today's Republican rank and file has a firm enough grasp on reality and the issues of today to have the first clue what they actually believe about anything beyond "Trump good" and "Democrats bad."

It's not even "Republicans good" anymore, because being solidly conservative, but disliking Trump, is enough to get one ousted from the party as a RINO now. The only true defining characteristic of a "Republican" today is worship of Trump.

[–] insomniac@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago

Just from my anecdotal experience with painfully stupid family members, it seems like the most important issue to them at any given moment is whatever the Facebook algorithm is pushing at the time. Whoever has that wrangled is really driving the narrative. They spend all their free time plugged in to Facebook seething over their perceived political enemies. Besides the fact that they’re stupid as shit, it’s pathetic and sad.

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[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can the media please co-opt the term “law and order” and use it for all Trump indictment stories.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

The media is not going to undermine the billionaire class by helping to dilute its dogwhistles. The media is on the side of the billionaire class.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 year ago

He seems to be a completely clueless buffoon who lacks any sense of decency

That's basically their platform now.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think he got a big ego boost and has just made dumb move after dumb move since.

He tried to fight Disney. Like... How much cocaine do you need to be on to think you can win a legal battle against Disney.

Disney eats lawsuits for breakfast.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I hate both Disney and I hate DeSantis. And I hate frivolous lawsuits and useless fights for political points, but...

There is something inherently wrong with governments not being able to control megacorporations.

[–] TheDankHold@kbin.social 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Controlling actions that cause negative externalities for consumers and citizens I could see but this is about the government punishing them for publishing speech that opposes his agenda.

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[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

On one hand full agreement, on the other hand there’s also something fundamentally wrong with state governments attempting to force mega corporations to do something in a different state without compelling reason purely by accounts of holding a large investment in their state.

Florida can ban things in Florida all they want within the confines of law and liberty (which they’ve long past left but that’s a different thing). But they were trying to force the whole of a company headquartered in California to stop being “woke” through punitive actions by nature of them holding a significant real investment in Florida that would be economically disastrous for both parties if it were sold off or abandoned.

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[–] ME5SENGER_24@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can remove the word “seems” from your comment. Meatball Ron is an absolute buffoon. He wants to spread his terrible hatred across the US as fast as possible, if he holds office. If there’s any doubt, look at some of the recent legislation being signed in Florida

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[–] AndreaHill@lemmy.world 118 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

You can look into those big dopey blue cow eyes and see what a clueless buffoon he is. Suckled from youth on a conservative teat that nourished him with a penchant for rejecting the very reality before his eyes and adopting ignorance as a world view. A fascist by any objective measure who sees a saviour when he looks in a mirror. A vacuous toad that is somehow less likeable and less intelligent than the Orange Shitgibbon himself. Bolstered by a small portion of the 70 million unthinking lackwits that celebrate incompetence, he bumbles through each day trying to assuage his feelings of inadequacy by cancelling anything that smells of progress, equality, inclusion, or fairness. To those who push back on him with data or facts that contradict his conjured reality, he harasses, sues, fires, or otherwise makes shift to inflict as much misery as he can. Unable to reason or infer cause and effect, his prosimian brain finds challenge in scooping puddin’ with three fingers, like a slow lemur that chanced upon some eggs in a nest. With no capacity to project effect from actions, he tirelessly navigates the garbage scow that is Florida’s economy onto the rocks of despair. Standing in the wreckage of his own state as essential workers and those with higher education, dignity, and the means flee, he stands and flings mud at Disney, like a petulant child who has been denied a cookie. Yet he’s not content with destroying his own state. He’s not content with being a gnat repeatedly slapped by Disney’s swooshing tail. Disney, an employer of 32,000 people in Florida. He has taken his game to a higher level by using migrants as pawns, putting women and children onto buses without means or recourse. Promising them there is a plan, and sending them off on long journeys to other states to meet whatever fate befalls them when they are dropped off bewildered on a sidewalk a thousand miles away. This is a man who portrays himself as a follower of Christ, yet incurs no dissonance in treating human beings as cattle, with which to score brownie points from his aging white claque of covidiots, imbeciles, bible thumpers, and racists. Trump was content to quietly lock women and children in cages. Desantis takes it a step further; human suffering is the advertisement. Knowledge and reason are the antithesis of the conservative mind. Those who have attained some measure of each usually conclude that an educated populace offers the best hope for solving the world’s crises. Men like Desantis know that educated people are more apt to reject conservatives’ plan to return us to a feudal Middle Ages society, therefore Desantis has declared war on education; banning books, banning classes, and whatever else empowers people. And so we will continue to watch each day what this lout brings to bear, and to what depths of depravity he can attain in his quest to foment the de-enlightenment.

[–] solstice@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read this in Fox Mulder's voice and it works nicely

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[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Hey honey a new copy pasta just dropped

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Almost every sentence is a killing blow. I was very amused while reading it, kudos.

[–] Ddubz@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

What is really sad though, is a not insignificant amount of the people who should read this can't read above a sixth grade level and would need to spend an hour with a dictionary to comprehend it.

Insert King of the Hill "if those kids could read" meme here.

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[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago

Fucking good. We need people to rein in all this culture war bullshit.

[–] SpunkyBarnes@geddit.social 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

About damn time somebody stood up to those fascists and said “No!”, in clear, uncertain, simple terms they’ll understand.

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Now if only someone could stand up to him and say “you’re not going to be president” maybe he’ll stop trying to ruin what’s left of Florida

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[–] Multech@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

Good. Fuck DeSantis, that fucking piece of shit.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 1 year ago

Remember the AP Test people were delighted to gut their black history test to make Florida happy.

They're not heroes by any stretch.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Some real Fox News style headline work. Surprised the AP Board didn't SLAM DeSantis.

[–] tiredOfFascists@reddthat.com 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I absolutely despise that SLAM is an acceptable word in journalism. How the fuck did that happen?

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Give it another couple years and we'll see, "murdered", "destroyed", "annihilated". Journalists need attention to make money so they use the most extreme language they can get away with. Problem is that language loses its urgency when you use it constantly and it isn't as effective at grabbing attention

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

I don't know, this is a pretty humiliating defeat for the guy who called it dangerous and "woke."

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DeSantis Ass-Blasted by Psycho Curriculum! Extreme Edition!

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[–] InternetUser2012@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

This guy is a fucking sad joke. Vote him the fuck out of there and turn that state around so I can go and want to live there again.

[–] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

"We're upset that the College Board dared hurt our students. We tried to hurt them first!"

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's almost like he gets defeated alot.

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[–] MiddleWeigh@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

AP psychology allows Florida to send Desantis back to caves.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Just a question out of curiosity. Is there some kind of standardized test used in AP classes?

Because I can just see a situation where they say they're going to allow topics on sexuality, but the teachers just magically don't have enough time in the year to cover everything, so some chapters just have to be skipped. For efficiency reasons, of course.

[–] medgremlin@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 1 year ago

Yes, the AP tests are standardized at the national level.

[–] TheL3mur@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

At the end of the school year, yes, there is a standardized nationwide AP test for every AP class.

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[–] onionbaggage@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

HUMILIATING!!

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