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[–] darkghosthunter@lemmy.ml 66 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This could backfire into something Google don’t want: everyone using adblockers.

Imagine everyone installing adblockers just to skip YouTube’s obnoxious ad rolls, just to also block most Internet ads.

Suddenly, having an adblocker becomes mainstream like wearing socks.

[–] grooving@lemmy.studio 28 points 1 year ago

You guys are wearing socks?!

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago

I was curious and latest statistics show 43% of users between 16 and 24 use ad blockers. We're already at bra level of mainstreamyness.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

No, it couldn't. People who didn't use adblockers aren't going to suddenly start using them just because YouTube started blocking adblockers. People who didn't use adblockers aren't impacted at all, nothing has changed for them.

[–] Kbin_space_program@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately, it means they'll move on pieces they already have in place.

They can disable ad blocking in Chrome entirely, and it probably won't kill the browser.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

The article linked here showed a pattern of people uninstalling ad blockers on Chrome… and then turning around and installing them on Edge.

This YouTube campaign might be one of the best things that ever happened to Edge.

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

"Go on then, there are other browsers than these" - Jake Chambers in The Gunslinger by Stephen King

[–] nous@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

I don't see how? This is targeting people already using ad blockers. People not already using them should not see any difference in service so why would they change their behaviour? At most a mild rise of awareness, though I bet most people following these news stories are also already running ad blockers. It is all the other aggressive shit they are doing with ads that will turn people towards ad blockers/premium.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

ublock origion, if anyone needs to know which one to use...

[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 49 points 1 year ago

unlock origin

I prefer uBlock Origin myself.

[–] pornrush@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 1 year ago

Adnauseam if you want to add a layer of fuck you on top of it.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't say more people overall use ad blockers. It says people that were already using them are now switching between different extensions. Let's wait and see if this increases Firefox's market share. This could be the real good outcome of all this.

[–] xtapa@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago

But people who don't use adblockers aren't the target if anti adblock stuff in the first place.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 52 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It pushed me more towards degoogling. Was already using newpipe on Android and ignoring the YouTube app, and now I'm on freetube on desktop. No need for Google account anymore to look at the feed I want.

[–] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 8 points 1 year ago

Invidious has been a saviour for me on mobile. The ads were so painfully long. To make it worse, I’d use YouTube to help fall asleep, adjust it to the right volume, then BAM! Loud advert. I didn’t use an ad blocker on PC for ages because I get that bandwidth is expensive as hell, but they really started taking the piss and I gave up.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

freetube uses Electron = Chromium ;D

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[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The day i remove my adblocker is the day... ah who am i kidding, i will never uninstall my adblocker.

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (16 children)

t doesn’t say more people overall use ad blockers. It says people that were already using them are now switching between different extensions. Let’s wait and see if this increases Firefox’s market share. This could be the real good outcome of all this.

That's literally the first thing after I install any new system.

  • get firefox on a stick so I don't have to open deprecated explorer or have to download Edge
  • install firefox, get ad blocker extension
  • then remove/turn off all the recommended shit that are now embedded to your start menu and task bar and lock screen. (I wish there is a github FOSS script that does this for new windows builds. )

I will abandon windows when the games can all be played on Linux properly.

[–] aksdb@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish there is a github FOSS script that does this for new windows builds.

https://github.com/topics/windows-11-debloat

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Dude, thanks for this.

[–] skillful_garbage@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will abandon windows when the games can all be played on Linux properly.

I feel you there. I'm just about at that point, although I also need better support for music software (FL studio, VSTs, etc) and hardware before I can fully switch.

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[–] skillful_garbage@beehaw.org 36 points 1 year ago

Some users are even going as far as to switch to a new browser.

As someone who changes browsers regularly on a whim, I love how big of a deal this is to the average person.

[–] grill@thelemmy.club 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yeah, but I'm sure a lot of people just bought youtube premium. I know my friend did...stupid idiot.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I wonder how business owners feel about their advertisements being weaponized to push people toward subscription plans that eliminate advertisements.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google doesn't give a shit what their advertisers think. It's not a "please buy our ads" situation, it's a "where else would you advertise online, you stupid fuck?" type of situation.

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[–] nous@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People that were running ad blockers were not seeing ads and business owners were not paying for those blocked ads. So I don't see why they would care at all.

[–] Goopadrew@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

True, but people who used to be served one ad per video are now being served 4 or 5, which both lessens the value of each individual ad, and gives more incentive to get rid of them with premium

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I was going to buy premium then I saw the price. It's like 14 a month, 24 for family, per month. To add on top of that, every subscription service has been increasing prices so in a few years it's probably going to be 20/30 dollars a month. Additionally, I already pay Google for 2 TB drive space for personal for 11 dollars a month and 13 dollars a month for a company workspace with one user. So why would I pay 24 more dollars to Google, and 30 dollars down the road?

Honestly, if Protonmail had better prices I'd likely switch but right now a more expensive service for fewer features isn't what I am going for. It's currently 30 dollars a month for only 3TB. I get 2 TB for just 11 dollars, family is free. Not to mention switching the whole family is a whole conversation and getting it to work on everyone's device is a headache with any service. As much as I would want to degoogle, I use Android, I use Google Voice, and I likely am not going to switch those. It's not really going to help me untie from Google and would just cause me headaches.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I could justify the AU$30 per month for myself and my housemate, but at AU$43, they can GAGTGF.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

GAGTGF?
I have no idea what this means, but I feel like it's probably something I'd like in my back pocket to pull out and throw in someone's face....kinda like pocket sand.

[–] blindsight@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I tried to take a stab at it, but I'm coming up empty.

Go And Get Totally Gang Fucked
Get A Grip To Get Fucked
Give A Gummer Then Get Fucked

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[–] reric88@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I've had YouTube premium from the inception of their subscription model prior to/at the beginning of YouTube red, as I initially had a paid Google music subscription.

Personally, there isn't a better option for the amount of hassle involved in my opinion. It's a family account, and managing so many people's YouTube experiences on at least a dozen different devices would be a nightmare I don't want to think about. (Multiple of each TV's, Roku's, Android phones, iPhones, pc's, etc)

This isn't really relevant to your friend, it is quite silly when it's just one person not willing to do it for just themselves.

[–] Forcen@lemmy.one 23 points 1 year ago

Only reason they are seeing so many uninstalls is because ublock origin is the big one that works and that requires uninstalling other blockers to get it to not be detected.

Ublock origin doesn't track uninstalls but it has gained quite a few users in the last 8 days

https://web.archive.org/web/20231027074108/https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

vs

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

[–] algorithmae@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked! Who could have seen this coming!?

[–] thingsiplay@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, well, well, Google. I told you.
This is only 20% of our power. We are not even Super Saiyan yet.

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And equally, Google is yet to use the big guns they have. Don't get me wrong, I hate Google with a passion, but they have way too much power over the internet for us to leave even a dent on their plans.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

They have a lot of power, but that power is tied by goodwill.

Right now they are cashing in all that goodwill with price increases, more onerous privacy invasion and “sponsored” links in lieu of actually accurate search results.

[–] mephiska@artemis.camp 4 points 1 year ago

Google: it’s over 9000!

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It pushed me to buy grayjay which is allowing me to easily keep up with people off youtube. I just wish that grayjay had a web app.

[–] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

my problem with grayjay is that it really wants to give me stuff from the trending tab even though it's supposed to be subscriptions only

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