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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago

Joe's stocks went down, hasn't it?

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

lol maybe stop abusing performance enhancing drugs first so you don’t look like a monster.

[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Shrek is not a monster.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago

What a spineless two-faced coward. He constantly attempts to cover up his fascism by saying non-committal stuff like this.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 18 points 7 hours ago

no taksies backsies, you are responsible for turning many men into trumpers.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 14 points 7 hours ago

You already are

[–] treno_rosso@feddit.org 20 points 7 hours ago

Not like Trump is doing different than he announced he would do. This moron endorsed him ffs.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 20 points 8 hours ago

... become?

[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 41 points 10 hours ago

Oh Joe, honey, you've been a monster for YEARS.

[–] 18USCode2381@infosec.pub 46 points 11 hours ago

Joe Rogan endorsed these anti American policies November 4th, 2024.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/04/us/politics/trump-joe-rogan-endorsement.html

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 56 points 11 hours ago

Fuck you, Joe. We all told you that he is a monster, and you helped elect him. Don't pretend you have any morals now.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 64 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Joe Rogan is irredeemable.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 11 hours ago

He is fine with cashing the checks, building his brand, and having people seek his approval. However, making fun of his height and calling him a nazi, that hurts guys.

[–] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 182 points 14 hours ago

Joe you helped us become this monster you fucking idiot.

[–] railcar@midwest.social 82 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

He deserves all the flak, but we need to accept and encourage people who are changing their mind or we're all fucked.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

He isn't changing his mind. This is part of his strategy and has always been so. This is to please the "but he also invites non-right wing guest" crowd. He is and will remain a right wing influencer who carries a large responsibility for the current situation with his right wing propaganda platform.

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 5 points 6 hours ago

"I'm sorry. You all tried to tell me, and I didn't listen. I was wrong"

We can talk about forgiveness and acceptance when he gets to this point.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

This - late is always better than never.

If tomorrow everyone just agreed to hate and reject Trump - 0% approval, anti-fascist public sentiment like it's 1944, and expedited impeachment - on the condition that we never bring up to the 50 million people how terrible it was that they supported him, would we agree to it?

I'd like to think I would, but maybe just like delusional anger, justifiable anger is a drug that can make us act irrationally and against our own interests.

[–] JakenVeina@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

I will make this agreement with anyone, today, so long as it is made in good faith. Which means, they have to start by fully acknowleding their role in getting us to where we are, apologize, and promise to do better.

This is not what we're getting from Rogan.

[–] immutable@lemm.ee 22 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I suspect it’s because a lot of people, myself included, think that this is how you get to festering problems that are fertile ground for the next authoritarian.

There was a brief moment after J6 where Lindsay Graham took to the floor of the senate, fresh from the reality of what had just happened and said that he didn’t support it. But a few weeks later, suffering no real consequences, he was back at the MAGA trough chowing down.

Humiliating people that change their minds for the better is probably not the solution. But saying “no consequences, all is forgiven if we can move on” is how you get confederate general statues all over union soil.

At the end of the day, trump supporters seem to be responding to the humanity crushing nature of global capitalism. They fall for the populist rhetoric and then swept up by the personality just assume that everything he said would get fixed is getting fixed now and everyone just doesn’t like him and are making things up. This works until it directly effects them, but even then they think it must be some mistake or oversight.

This goes to show how deep the hunger is for someone to rein in capitalism and support populist reforms. In the absence of any legitimate policies pointing in that direction, this conman is making a fantastic meal out of promising whatever sounds good, delivering nothing, then moving on to the next round of grifting.

Real substantive improvement to this nation will only come from actually improving the material conditions under which Americans labor. And this sounds strange for the wealthiest nation on earth, but many of our countrymen can’t afford healthy food, medicine, shelter, and if they can it’s at the expense of their every waking minute of labor. If you push a population like that, they will eventually wonder what the heck the point is, and they will follow anyone that says they can fix it. Sadly, trump sees this rhetoric as a campaigning tool nothing more, he could care less if people can sell their alfalfa as long as they cheer for him. And the Democratic Party isn’t offering compelling solutions either, they’ve slid far enough right that Biden’s cornerstone IRA and CHIPS acts largely targeted massive companies in a full embrace of trickle down economics. Intel gets to build a new chip foundary eventually, if the legislation isn't gutted, and if intel doesn’t find it more convenient to pocket the cash, blame burdensome regulations, and cancel the project a la Foxconn in Wisconsin.

Both parties are captured by the massive companies, they can only legislate in the thin band the wealthy donors allow them too. Dems offer up solutions in that band that dont make things meaningfully better. MAGA just figured out that no one is following up, so you can say you’ll do popular things and then deliver a massive tax cut to the wealthiest instead.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 3 points 7 hours ago

Humiliating people that change their minds for the better is probably not the solution. But saying “no consequences, all is forgiven if we can move on” is how you get confederate general statues all over union soil.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I am perfectly willing to accept people who turn the page and abandon fascism, but there needs to be genuine contrition and a concerted effort on their part to set things right. Saying "oopsie" and then quietly going on with their lives safely away from the destruction that they've sown is not good enough. That Hans Landa shit doesn't fly.

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[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 99 points 14 hours ago (8 children)

Why do people listen to this idiot? His stance changes when the wind blows. The "wind" being a threat to his profit.

I mean, I don't think Rogan is "Evil," or even little "e" evil, but for Pete's sake, he's just a meathead dudebro who has let fame and money go to his head. He should go back to just smoking weed and talking about aliens.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 6 points 5 hours ago

Unprincipled self-serving assholes ARE evil. If you spread dangerous words that end up motivating people into harming others, YOU are at fault.

That is why we shouldn't tolerate hateful talk towards innocent people, even when "he's just joking!", "she doesn't really mean it!". Enough little words together make an avalanche, and his words are not even little.

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 7 hours ago

Some More News did an excellent segment on Rogan. One of the interesting things they noted is Rogan's tendency to stay in opposition to the running political power. This checks out

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

He's either woefully ignorant, or he's a Kremlin asset. The amount of Russian propaganda that comes out of his mouth is next level. He has refused to interview the Klitshkow brothers about Ukraine, and those guys are both prime candidates for that podcast. Former boxers turned politicians that want to speak their side on Ukraine, and he couldn't be bothered. Instead, he was happy to have Tulsi Gabbard, Tim Pool, and Jordan Peterson on multiple times to spout pure propaganda. It's infuriating that anyone gives him the time of day to listen to what his podcast has become.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

funny how they all went quiet when it was found out the media company funding the grifters was linked to putins oligarches, roegan probably became one very recently. Tulsi is a given, she has been one since '16, and her being a right wing ASIANs youtube channel was pretty obvious too. she was a guest on that channel just right before trump was elected(like a few weeks before, which was suspicious), she was of course parroting russian backed propaganda.

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 54 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Recklessly endangering the health of an entire democratic system for short term monetary gain is definitely little e evil.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

He's so dumb, I think he thought all of this was just shit talking, at first.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

His entire job as an MMA commentator is to interview people who were recently concussed into a pulp. That’s about where he’s at — able to converse with people who are struggling to stay lucid enough to not get carried out on a stretcher. Something something DMT and gorillas, Jamie pull that up.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

Funny that you mention that;

He's stated multiple times that when he knocked that other kid cold for a long, long time with the spinning back kick in that tournament, he decided then to stop, before he got major CTE.

He stopped way too late.

No offense to anyone with a traumatic brain injury. But most of them don't host Nazis and other pieces of human garbage to influence legions of teenage boys.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 38 points 14 hours ago

The "wind" being a threat to his profit. I mean, I don't think Rogan is "Evil,"

That's textbook Nazis. They were all for it until it wasn't popular and a threat to their profit.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 26 points 14 hours ago

He's at a minimum little “e” evil. I've seen him go full far-right and MAGA.

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[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 11 hours ago

Bit late buddy. 👹

[–] peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 14 hours ago

Joe Rogan is an idiot.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 10 points 11 hours ago
[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 30 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I’ll never get why this moron has such an audience

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 29 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Lots of morons in this world.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 31 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

"Are we the baddies" moment.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 27 points 14 hours ago

No, I don't think he'll ever get that aware. He's just following the trend to stay relevant.

[–] Ghost_Pepper@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Too little too late . You helped put this maniac in the White House.

[–] MichaelScotch@lemmy.world 24 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Too late. We’re already fucking monsters. Wake the fuck up, bro

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 points 13 hours ago

Rage Entertainment Podcaster that blows with the political winds like a piece of tissue paper?

Shocking

[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 4 points 10 hours ago
[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

I didn't watch the podcast, just saw a clip from others reporting on it.

I didn't hear him say anything about trump, at all. He just said a mildly reasonable thing about the deportations without due process.

Is this headline sensationalized or am I wrong? Sounded like the most vanilla sugar coated "turns on trump" he could be. Stark contrast from during the election when he practically had a rock hard energized erection for trump.

Show me when he actually says he was wrong blatantly and says fuck trump on his shitty podcast, I'll eat my shoe.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

UH OH! Joe Rogan's FAITHFUL Audience is about to TURN on Him! How DARE he QUESTION Trump and DEFEND a Brown person! And also we're NOT RACIST and NOT A CULT!

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

if the subreddit clowns on him,

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