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Can mods do something about this thread? Everyone is engaging in friendly speculation that it was terrorism, because their lizard brains are remembering the Toronto attack. This was a mental health problem. The suspect was not a white supremacist. Go back to America please.
There was also an attack on the Afzaal family in London (Ontario) by a white nationalist with a pickup truck because they were visibly Muslim
But Canada is in america.
north america
Yeah the same as the US and Mexico.
are you in north america? You may have a different dialect of english than north americans. This would explain the confusion. We do not consider ourselves americans, because american is the demonym of the US.
I'm in the US but I can't tell you how many times I've played games online and had someone chastise me because they were also from america. Its kinda funny how you can get upset about being reminded of that while all those people get upset about being excluded.
Ah. I'm not especially upset or anything, I am just trying to explain the difference in terminology.
In this case I have too little insight. But it's quite clear how biased these reports are in Germany. Anyone not absolutely German is immediately a terrorist and every white, German dude is a confused loner. Media never suspects that mental issues based on trauma from war and refugee journeys might be a good reason or that guys voting for right wing extremists and killing "woke" people might have anything to do with their political views.
Well there is quite a lot of evidence to suggest this was a mental health issue.
The thing is before evidence comes up we see the issue with reporting:
- if black it is gang activity until proven otherwise
- if brown it is terrorism until proven otherwise
- if white it is mental health until proven otherwise
ok but there is evidence now. For instance, the family has tried to have the perp checked into a mental hospital 2 dozen times over the last year
Report the comments.
While yes, ideally it would've been nice if it didn't happen, but there's not enough mods to police this place. It's still better than news... That place is a complete shitshow.
No motive has been given, although police have said they are “confident” it was not an act of terrorism.
I wonder what makes them confident of that. It certainly resembles a terrorist attack.
It does resemble a terrorist attack...
But if you watched the press conference with the chief of police (or the equivalent title)...
They have the suspect in custody, there were no specific threats to the event before hand, the suspect has a long history of mental illness, and the suspect has had many previous run ins with the police, 'suspect is well known to the department'... gives me the impression this is a person who is having one kind of mental breakdown or another ... every month or other week.
At one point a reporter asked if it was terrorism and the CoP basically says... that would require a political or ideological motivation.
The CoP ... you could tell he was doing his best to divulge information he could without divulging information he couldn't. He paused and tried to rephrase things a few times, openly struggled with ... seemingly genuinely being unclear about what he was legally allowed to say.
If the person truly is seriously mentally ill, there may be additional laws in place protecting some extra level of their privacy, at least before charges are actually brought.
Put all that together, and it seems like this person has been just... very very seriously mentally ill for a long time, as in, too mentally ill to be capable of forming a coherent or describable ideology.
Or, at the very least, that seems to me to be what the police are saying.
There's a very specific rubric for what counts as a terrorist attack in Canada. Probably the level of calculation and premeditation involved was a factor and that he's not a part of an ideologically organized group that is trying to influence behaviour of a government or political body.
A spontaneous hate crime made against a population is technically not a terrorist attack by Canadian definition. To count you have to have done it for a narrow slice of very specific reasons.
It means they double checked and the driver was definitely white
Looks Filipino to me.
He wasn't. I'm not going to post his name or race here, but he has been charged and his name made public.
I've seen the name now and you are right, Sorry, I've been superficial
Dude might have been drunk. If it isn't intentional, it's usually a case of too drunk or too old.
Severe, severe mental illness. He wasn't drunk or old.
What was the mental illness?
They haven't released his diagnosis but he had been struggling with paranoia and delusions prior. Also a long history of mental health/police contact and very recent calls from his family to hospital to get him help. This was entirely preventable if the mental health supports were adequately available.
I know it's a slim chance and I'm going out on a limb here, but something tells me the driver was a white conservative.
I'm going out on a limb here, but [NPC karma farming opinion]
... and you'd be wrong.
Apparently it was mental health related, and he was apologizing when he came out of the car
I prefer to call them "Poilievre voters"
No motive has been given, although police have said they are “confident” it was not an act of terrorism.
Let me guess? The suspect is white! I jest, but at this point it's probably likely the driver is a radicalized "conservative" than any other group.
Why would you guess? You can literally just look it up. It's all over the news.
Because confirmation bias is a superior substitute to basic research, how else would one inform themselves about the world?
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No. East Asian looking male with a history of mental illness.
Most likely the political component of this tragedy is how the Socreds closed regional mental health institutions in the late 20th C, and subsequent governments just swept the whole thing under the rug while homelessness spread through the province and mentally disturbed and unsupported people lashed out in random ways.
Now you have dorks and bootlickers like Mayor Sims turning a health system failure into an opportunity for cruelty and repression. Punishment will be the talking point. They will roll with that, watch.