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[–] Kookie215@lemmy.world 217 points 1 week ago (21 children)

They want us to riot so bad. They are foaming at the mouth trying to justify enacting Martial Law and every day it feels like its more and more inevitable that we will end up there. Either they are going to keep violating the constitution and getting away with it until they don't need to enact it, or eventually shit hits the fan at a protest. I don't see any other option at this point. They are taunting us, and it's going to work eventually.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 72 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

NAIL ON THE HEAD.

the ironic thing is that the us govt has done a ton of studies on the 'breaking point of society'. but they're not science bros, so they're just gonna do it their way.

even the canada thing. he's literally costing himself a canadian conservative govt that was all-but guaranteed. but he doesn't want that with canada; he just wants (edit-typo) manufactured conflict.

but you're absolutely right. he's doing everything he can to cause riots so that he can enact "marshall" law and crack down once and for all. my god, why can't my american neigbours all see it?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"marshall" law.

"I dub thee Sir Phobos, beater of ass."

[–] proper@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

that’s martian law, barbeaubot

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago

More jut! It don't mean butt if it don't got that jut.

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 18 points 1 week ago

not science bros, so they're just gonna do it their way.

i just think they’re petulant children with absolutely no self control

trump literally as old as he is right now would take the marshmallow in the stanford marshmallow experiment, and then try and convince someone that you stole his other marshmallow

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[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I appreciate that this "riots are part of their plan" post acknowledges that not rioting just means a bloodless coup. People keep putting this argument up like the optimal move is just continually not taking the bait under the assumption that some easy solution will eventually come to fruition, but it's just the frog arguing for boiling itself. They're not going to just have four years of people letting them do whatever they want and then run free and fair elections because we didn't take the bait.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Would be nice if there was some leadership on the dems side to, you know, address the volatility of the nation right now. Schumer seriously sending angry letters. If riots break out I hold them equally responsible. They will literally sit on their hands until the country goes up in flames and come out afterwards saying we need unity.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are 100% correct, that is definitely the plan. Have the RedHats instigate violence, then call in the military to quell the violence with even more ferocious violence, and Hegseth will definitely give the order to fire on American citizens. It will be like Tiananmen Square, but in cities all over America. Once he has declared Martial Law, he can suspend elections until peace is restored, and since he will control the peace.

The 2026 midterms are shaping up to be a bloodbath, and he can't afford to lost one or both chambers to the Democrats, where they can have control of investigative committees, with subpoena and arrest powers.

So he has to time it right, so the courts and SCOTUS wont have time to react before election day. That means next summer/fall. By then, Luigi's trial will be in play, many more activities will be criminalized, he will have sent Americans to El Salvador, the first stage of the 30,000 bed facility in Gitmo may be open (or soon), he will have imprisoned political opponents, store shelves will be empty, other goods will be tripled in price, we'll be in a deep recession, there will be food shortages, etc. Anything is possible, but it will all add up to public outrage like we have never seen, and he will take full advantage of it to end our system of government, and become a one more incompetent Dictator.

Then it's on.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure Trump will start a war before the elections, both to boost his ratings and to justify extraordinary powers because of the emergency that he will have just created.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 30 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't think they want it. Numbers aren't in their favor. We aren't remotely close to Russian or Chinese levels of generational suppression.

But they likely don't know they don't want it. They assume they will get absolute power one way or the other because China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, etc have absolute power in their state.

I doubt the Tiananmen Square massacre would have been nearly as effective with the speed at which information flows nowadays. Sure - major corporate media can suppress as much as it can, but millions of people were able to turn out for protests quickly, and think of how fast we all found out about the arrest of two judges.

Against any totalitarian government, the most effective weapon is information, followed closely by communication. I am willing to bet that there isn't code sitting on our phones waiting for the government to just shut it all down.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The government can absolutely shut down the internet and telecommunications. They can also send propaganda straight to your phone that you can’t stop.

[–] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

One time I was at the internet place picking up a new router. The internet in the area had just gone down and angry people were literally coalescing upon the store like zombies.

Godspeed to anyone who turns the data off to America

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[–] Liberteez@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've been expecting the US to explode into a near civil war type situation for months now. You have a relatively small group of very heavily armed people who are willing to die for their dictator, you have a now dictatorial regime wanting to change the US into a theocracy and you have the other 200+ million Americans with varying degrees of weapons who are just about ready to make shit hit the fan. I wonder if US military has prepared for this, and whose side it will chose, but I imagine it will be fracture d and splintered between factions.

It would be super interesting to watch if it wasnt so goddamn scary because these fuckers have the world's second largest nuclear arsenal and have of these idiots in command are the doomsday types who will happily fire nukes world wide when shit gets real, just to make sure that jeebus would come back to earth to pick them up personally.

Fuck I hate this and I hate these hateful people. I hate it that these people have pushed so much hate in me

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[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a great strategy, either we riot and they bring out the army, or we do nothing and they get what they want unopposed.
"The second American revolution will be bloodless if the left allows it"

We're so fucked.

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[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

The threat of Martial Law is a conspiracy theory at best. There aren't nearly enough troops AND police to institute it. Stop trying to pretend it's even possible

To the downvoters: get over yourselves. It's simple mathematics. This video explains it all.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yes, there are. 80% of the population can be controlled on mere threats alone. The rest can be dealt with by the authorities.

Besides, it isnt about whether its possible or not, its all about them believing that they can. If HitlerPig wants to do it, his henchmen know that they have to enthusiastically agree and call him the greatest strategist in the world, or they are out of a job (at best). So they'll tell him its possible.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 90 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oohhhhh

All those Scotus justices making sure trump would be able to become king... Then they get nervous because king start behaving like a king and now king wants to kill them. Would could have seen this coming except everyone who has ever opened a history book?

These supreme Court justices are about as supreme as my ass.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These supreme Court justices are about as supreme as my ass.

They aren't even as supreme as a chalupa from fucking taco bell.

Go do it then. Show America what they voted for.

[–] halferect@lemmy.world 54 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't understand how the scotus didn't see this coming. What do dictators hate? Anyone who has any possible power over them, so what do dictators do? Arrest or kill any possibility of opposition and number one was always gonna be scotus. They killed themselves

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[–] lemmy_acct_id_8647@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I have never seen a face in as much need of meeting a high velocity crowbar as this cunt.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If a small fraction of us did stuff like that, these problems would be resolved very, very quickly.

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[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If they arrest a SCOTUS Judge they can be DANG SURE that they'll get at Least ONE STERN LETTER the Following Week or Two!

[–] CarnivorousCouch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

And an obsequious "dissent" from that, too. As a treat.

[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 37 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is why the Judicial branch needs to have its own fully separate, security forces/armed forces.

[–] arun@ani.social 14 points 1 week ago

In theory, yes. But not the fucking Roberts, Alito, et all court.

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[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

Why stop at justices, how about the president?

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fuck this is happening fast

[–] waylandyr@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago

And also not fast. It's highly stressful.

[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"There are decades when nothing happens, and there are weeks when decades happen."
- Attributed to Lenin, who almost certainly did not say it

[–] Bonus@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

If zombies were real, Helen Thomas would be pissed these two don't have any brains to eat.

[–] El_Azulito@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

So if Pam Bondi is just a sycophantic bootlicker, where exactly are the checks and balances? If she can weaponize her position to arrest justices for not bootlicking, then the system’s already collapsed. That’s game over.

[–] doublenut@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

They deserve it fuck them

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