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[–] BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It isn't actually smart, or thinking. It's just statistics.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

right? AI didn't pass the Turing test, Humans fucking failed it.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not that the turing test is meaningful or scientific at all...

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 2 points 2 months ago

just like the vast majority of people

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Soon to be built upon sarcastics.

[–] Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm not sure why that's a relevant distinction to make here. A statistical model is just as capable of designing (for instance) an atom bomb as a human mind is. If anything, I would much rather the machines destined to supplant me actually could think and have internal worlds of their own, that is far less depressing.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's relevant in the sense of its capability of actually becoming smarter. The way these models are set up at the moment puts a mathematical upper limit to what they can achieve. We don't quite know exactly where, but we know that each step taken will take significantly more effort and data than the last.

Without some kind of breakthrough w.r.t. how we model these things (so something other than LLMs), we're not going to see AI intelligence skyrocket.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

A statistical model is just as capable of designing (for instance) an atom bomb as a human mind is.

No. A statistical model is designed by a human mind. It doesn't design anything on its own.

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 0 points 2 months ago

If it got smarter it could tell you step by step how an AI would take control over the world, but wouldn't have the conscience to actually do it.

Humans are the dangerous part of the equation in this case.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

a meat brain is also a stastistical inference engine.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nah, biology has a ton of systems that all interconnect. Pain feedback itself is a tiny fraction of what makes a real brain tick, and "AI" doesn't have afraction of an equivalent. Of one solitary system.

No, brains are far, far more than statistical inference. Not that they cannot be reproduced, but they are far, far more than math machines.

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 1 points 2 months ago

negative feedback reinforcement systems are one of the key features of machine learning algorithms.

they are far, far more than math machines.

can you be more specific?

[–] Paid_in_cheese@lemmings.world 7 points 2 months ago

There's a kind of scam that some in the AI industry have foisted on others. The scam is "this is so good, it's going to destroy us. Therefore, we need regulation to prevent Roko's Basilisk or Skynet." LLMs have not gotten better in any significant degree. We have the illusion that they have because LLM companies keep adding shims that, for example, use Python libraries to correctly solve math problems or use an actual search engine on your behalf.

LLM development of new abilities has stagnated. Instead, the innovation seems to be in making models that don't require absurd power draws to run. (Deep Seek being a very notable, very recent example.)

I watched this video all the way through hoping they would turn things around but it's just the same fluff for a new audience.

[–] lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A tv show called Ark II

Ark II is an American live-action science fiction television series, aimed at children, that aired on CBS from September 11 to December 18, 1976,

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0127989/

[–] MBM@lemmings.world 2 points 2 months ago

rational animations

Figures

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

We all get AI robot panthers to ride around on?

You know what? I think I'm OK with that...

https://youtu.be/t1ckJdIp_NA