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[–] rasakaf679@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 hours ago

You miss spelled it... Its not quiet quitting... Its doing what's necessary and nothing excess.. if you aren't paid for it

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Man, fuck all those guys for doing their job to a sufficient quality and quantity to not get fired, eh?

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 hours ago

Well productivity is a good thing, I think the problem is the incentives. Their government essentially funnels all the money to their elderly via monetary policy, and the youth get the table scraps.

[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago

Considering that work ethic literally killed people: Good.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 46 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I fucking hate the 'quiet quitting' term. It puts the onus on the people who are tired of the inhumane hours and treatment, and the accompanying meager pay. Instead of putting it on the companies and government whose policies and ethics are fostering these awful conditions which engender these sorts of worker responses. It's not quiet quitting. It's holding boundaries between work and personal life. It's not allowing the company to steal your time away from you. It's preventing the company from overstepping their position in your life. It's so many things that are important and 'quiet quitting' does those people a disservice in favor of a catchy corporate approved soundbite. I find that disgusting.

[–] tfowinder@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

I did not find any proper meaning of phrase quiet quitting

It might as well mean - working only the amount you are paid for - which sounds totally reasonable.

Totally corporate worded article.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It's a phrase meant to replace the old phrase "working your wage", because that way of viewing it makes the whole situation less dramatic and more noble … and generates less clicks. Classic newsspeak.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I always took it to mean "doing the least amount of work possible without getting fired." If someone's making an effort to work the amount they're paid for, I wouldn't consider it quiet quitting.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

We used to just call it Work to Rule.

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

FYI the "Japanese crazy long hours and hard work ethic" BS only applies to corporate jobs.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-work-week-by-country

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

"Quiet quitting" is not a trend. Like, at all. If you have a coworker that doesn't want to do their job, your employer has a shitty employee. That's it, an isolated incident. The term itself is basically the same as boomers screeching about how "nobody wants to work anymore"...

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 hours ago

nobody wants to work anymore

I just fire back with "nobody wants to pay us anymore" now.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 4 hours ago

I think it’s a bit of a misnomer. It’s not that people are abandoning their jobs, it’s that they are abandoning the toxic mindset that says line must go up, that good people are good worker drones for their superiors, etc. It’s more like quitting your career but keeping your job even if in a half-assed way.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 7 minutes ago)

If you have a coworker that doesn’t want to do their job, your employer has a shitty employee.

I think it's less that people don't want to do any work at all or less than the "minimum" (except for some rare cases), and more that people are doing only the minimum, not putting in any extra effort, not going above and beyond - because their salaries are stagnating, their employers are only paying them the minimum and not a cent more, and their extra efforts are going unrecognized. Ask me how I know. I have seen it myself personally, multiple times at multiple companies, and I have seen it through my friends experiences as well.

In unions, it's called work-to-rule. Most jobs/companies don't have unions, so we get "quiet quitting" instead. The more conditions stay the same, or the worse they become, the worse the "quiet quitting" becomes.

If you want to motivate your employees, reward them. Give them something to strive towards. Reward their extra efforts! Don't just give them the bare minimum and hope that they will keep going above and beyond for you, because that's not realistic and it's not sustainable.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 23 hours ago

we should normalize to punch everyone in the gut who uses the words "quiet quitting".

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It was probably higher before, but it wasn't as acceptable to say it as it is today.

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

You're basically right. Back when unions were a thing, they dubbed this behavior "working your wage" I.e. not volunteering for unpaid labor. "Quiet quitting" is a neologism designed by a think tank to shift the burden of responsibility to the employee

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

Heh, I've seen this personally. I work for a Japanese company, and part of my job is coordinating tooling installations with the factory I'm stationed at (pick a chip fab in the US, I've probably been there). When we get a tool onsite, I get an install team directly from our factory in Japan who handles all the physical installation aspects. They work hard, efficiently, and with the utmost care for the finer details (some of these tools are expected to last 20+ years - we have a few that have been in production for nearly as long with very little fuss). Occasionally, they will finish their tasks early the last couple days and take off after lunch, letting me know of this beforehand and that their daily reports will be sent to me and other relevant managers at the "usual" time, with a wink and a nod.

I don't care how much time they clock, as long as shit gets done properly. Haven't had any issues.

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[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 35 points 1 day ago

The Japanese work ethic doesn't even make sense and does more harm than good. If you don't have time for yourself or family the society will collapse (already happening). To be clear, I'm not talking about being diligent work, but working 8+ hours every single day.

Many Japanese don't leave work at 5pm even though those are the official business hours because it's rude to leave before the boss leaves. So people stay at work until 7 or 8pm. Many times having to also go drinking with co-workers or the boss. So, depending on the day, you may end up with 1-2 hours for yourself. No wonder they aren't having children, and depression rates are sky high.

Same applies to Korea.

[–] tamman2000@lemm.ee 53 points 1 day ago

This is what happens in societies that have increasing income inequality.

Why should workers feel compelled to bust their asses when it benefits their bosses, but not themselves?

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Thank goodness. Now when im napping during work I can feel less guilty thinking about Japan doing it too.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When you're napping, know that someone in Japan is also asleep, but largely because of the time change.

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[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 184 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Fuck the term quiet quitting. Call it what it is, doing your job.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

Employee burnout is a symptom of a toxic work culture, and "quiet quitting" is a corporate psyop invented to prevent you from noticing it.

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[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah because they started to get fucked over

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[–] Neuromorph@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

so goes Japan, so goes the world!!! ive been quiet quitting since i entered the work force

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 7 points 23 hours ago

Hard work is rewarded with more work and the extra value is pocketed by a C-Suite.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 214 points 1 day ago (21 children)

From what I’ve read, Japan’s work ethic has been more about presenteeism than productivity for a while. While long hours are the norm, it’s more important to be seen to be working than to be productive, so you don’t leave before the boss does, but you do spend a large amount of that time staring out the window or otherwise idling.

[–] xep@fedia.io 131 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The phrase "quiet quitting" really grinds my gears. Are you fulfilling the terms of your employment contract? Yes? Then you're working, and haven't quit.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 99 points 1 day ago (14 children)

Japan has strong worker protections. It is very difficult to fire an employee in Japan, without showing that the employee committed a crime. Employees can do practically nothing at work and still get paid. Call in sick as much as they want and the only penalty is not getting paid sick days once they run out of paid sick leave and vacation days. If an employer does mass layoffs, they have to show that the company is on the verge of bankruptcy and they have tried everything else, including reducing the pay of executives or removing executive positions before firing employees. Elon Musk is in hot water in Japan for mass firing Twitter employees in Japan. He violated Japanese labor laws.

[–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

Yea instead of firing you they'll try their hardest to get you to quit. They'll send you to the 追い出し部屋.

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