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I asked Wendy if I could read the paper she turned in, and when I opened the document, I was surprised to see the topic: critical pedagogy, the philosophy of education pioneered by Paulo Freire. The philosophy examines the influence of social and political forces on learning and classroom dynamics. Her opening line: “To what extent is schooling hindering students’ cognitive ability to think critically?” Later, I asked Wendy if she recognized the irony in using AI to write not just a paper on critical pedagogy but one that argues learning is what “makes us truly human.” She wasn’t sure what to make of the question. “I use AI a lot. Like, every day,” she said. “And I do believe it could take away that critical-thinking part. But it’s just — now that we rely on it, we can’t really imagine living without it.”

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago (16 children)

This sounds like they made up a young person to get mad at tbh. I don't think most students use AI to that extent.

In all honesty though, the whole way we teach needs to be overhauled. So much of these classes amounts to busywork and teaching stuff that isn't relevant. But the biggest problem of all are these classes are rushed and that results in students being dumped with a continuous stream of too much information, all of which they can't realistically remember in a short amount of time. That, and due to pressure on teachers to teach the entirety of a subject in a stupidly short amount of time, we are increasingly seeing teachers basically tell students to teach themselves.

If students do resort to chatgpt, which I think is rare, it's because the quality of teaching has gone down the tubes. Not the teachers fault, just the stupid way the whole thing is structured.

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[–] axont@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I used to work for a company that would write papers for students. A lot of them were like composition 101 level 500 word essays but I also did a few grad school assignments lol. Like I did a master's thesis in health admin, one in art history, and one in nursing education.

I guess I'm out of a job though since now chatgpt will do this for free

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pour one out for all the adjuncts who have to read a thousand first year chatgpt papers

[–] Bolshechick@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

They'll probably just get chatgpt to read and grade the papers for them

We're so cooked lol

[–] CeliacMcCarthy@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

actual for real no-foolin' new dark age

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yea i graduated just before the proliferation (although in my final year everyone was cheating in more old-school ways, as we were in online college due to covid). my sister is finishing her teaching undergrad currently and she says everyone uses it, you're just falling behind in efficiency with menial assignments (lesson plans, etc.) if you don't.

[–] simontherockjohnson@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

she says everyone uses it, you’re just falling behind in efficiency with menial assignments (lesson plans, etc.) if you don’t.

I went to an engineering school and in undergrad people who had the same opinion typically just did their assignments as a group and copied each other. The reality is that they didn't want to put in the 10 hours-ish a day that the job of being a student technically entails, each 4 credit course is supposed to be ~12-16 hours. a week. Some places it's longer/shorted depending on the school/curriculum. If you're taking a full semester which is typically 16 credits at many places, that's 48-64 hours a week.

It's a lot of time. I feel for people who struggle with it because they have to work, I did as well, but a lot of kids just wanted to party.

[–] GeneralSwitch2Boycott@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Is there a certain segment of society that this applies to or is it widespread throughout? Because there must be some people who know this is bad right?

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