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A wall with Canada? The idea came up during a Republican presidential debate, from a candidate insisting his party's border policies aren't tough enough.

Entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy brought it up unprompted on Wednesday night in Miami.

Bombing drug labs in Mexico has become an increasingly popular idea in his party, along with building a wall along the southern U.S. border.

But Ramaswamy said these policies don't go far enough. He lamented that the northern border does not get discussed as often as it should.

"I'm the only candidate on this stage, as far as I'm aware, who has actually visited the northern border," Ramaswamy said, on the tail end of remarks about border security.

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[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

As someone living on the mean streets of a border town with Canada, we used to walk over without even a passport and post-9/11 with passports the line has gotten hours long either way and it basically closed the border to me except for weekend trips.

My life would be better with a fully open border vs the current situation, can't imagine something more useless than a giant wall.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I would like to see evidence that the current requirements are doing any good. It is a pain in the ass to cross the border now.

[–] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

God dammit Canada, stop playing 4D chess to make us pay for your wall.

[–] Im14abeer@midwest.social 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I want to know what genius Canadian politician promised their constituency a wall on the southern border and they'll make the U.S. pay for it. A political masterstroke.

[–] keefshape@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

If you find out let us know, a good chunk of us would vote for this mystery benefactor.

[–] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Next we need walls to protect us from the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, in case of Kaiju attacks!

[–] bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

"We need to bomb all drug labs in Atlantis and secure our beaches! Too many of our children have been injecting seeweed to get high!"

[–] ExcursionInversion@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Dude, just watched a documentary about that. Pacific rim if you want to check it out.

[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

No one is smuggling anything across that border except the Trailer Park Boys

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We (Canada) do have an issue with US guns getting smuggled into Canada, but no wall (if that was even remotely possible to do, which it isn't) is going to help with that.

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Canada: “I will give you $100 million of wall for you to fuck off.”

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It seems like Vivek's strategy is to just be loud in these debates. Personality wise (ignoring policy) he seemed the worst of all those in the primary.

Link to video: ;https://youtu.be/vHdS8Bcz1TY?si=RHvjLgb7H_6ktTYF Skip to 1:36:40-1:38:23

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Lucky for him he's running in the party that has little to no interest in policy and embraces those with awful, loud personalities.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Sarah Palin changed politics forever. The half term Governor of Alaska showed that you could make money by being an angry idiot without ever winning a second election

[–] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 12 points 10 months ago

So he visited the border but not the country? I hope it stays that way.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Canada: okay but only if you pay for it.

[–] crazy4ski@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

We may pitch in for a wall around Alberta, it can be 'North Montana'.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Walls on both sides... hmm where have we seen that before...

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

My wife and I were curious about the pricing. So for context, after about 25 years the ISS cost 150bn, estimates say the border wall with Mexico would hit that price in about 5 years. Our border with Mexico is fucking nothing compared to Canada. They’ve got a river and desert to deal with. Up here we’ve got 5 giant lakes, two mountain groups (one of which isn’t terrible to cross, but is shit to build on), and once you’re past the Canadian Shield (also terrible to build on) you’ve got just so absolutely much wilderness. And you’ve gotta build a wall in Detroit