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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/64750194

  • President Donald Trump on Friday said he is β€œrecommending a straight 50% Tariff on the European Union” after complaining that trade negotiations have stalled.

  • The EU β€œhas been very difficult to deal with,” Trump wrote. β€œOur discussions with them are going nowhere!”

The European Union, which was formed for the primary purpose of taking advantage of the United States on TRADE, has been very difficult to deal with. Their powerful Trade Barriers, Vat Taxes, ridiculous Corporate Penalties, Non-Monetary Trade Barriers, Monetary Manipulations, unfair and unjustified lawsuits against Americans Companies, and more, have led to a Trade Deficit with the U.S. of more than $250,000,000 a year, a number which is totally unacceptable. Our discussions with them are going nowhere! Therefore, I am recommending a straight 50% Tariff on the European Union, starting on June 1, 2025. There is no Tariff if the product is built or manufactured in the United States. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

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[–] Klimaschutz@feddit.org 4 points 13 hours ago

I recommend to ban some american technoloy, from Musk and the others.

[–] sith@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago
[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

I recommend trump overdose on ketamine.

[–] Vincent@feddit.nl 37 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Please please please if this happens, institute reciprocal tariffs on services. Nobody would care if it becomes more expensive to advertise on Facebook, and we have a trade deficit in services.

(OK I guess lots of companies would care if their IT infrastructure gets more expensive, but 🀷)

[–] darko@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Companies have the option to migrate to EU providers to avoid the taxes on their infrastructure. Yes I know it's not that easy. Bite the bullet or pay the tax.

[–] iglou@programming.dev 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I honestly don't understand why it's not already the norm. We've got plenty of great providers in Europe.

[–] darko@feddit.org 5 points 16 hours ago

Well I know for medium and large companies it may not be easy, depending on what cloud services they currently use. But for micro and small companies, that use cloud storage, and maybe some virtual machines in the cloud, there is no excuse. A Linux VM is a Linux VM no matter whether it is hosted on Aws or OVH cloud

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I said it before, EU not implementing any tariffs so far to appease the Orange was a mistake and sign of weakness in Orange's eyes. No wonder Orange swings random numbers around now.

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I disagree. It was very smart to stay out of the spotlight and look at what happens with China. After all the EU got 10% tariffs fairly quickly without doing too much.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

China is holding ground and it looks good for them, even Orange, after lowering many of tariffs, is taking about lowering remaining tariffs. While the opposite is happening to EU.

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

China holding ground ended up with Trump raising tariffs a few times as well. In this case he just talked about them. He did not sign anything. The stock market crashed and a shit ton of lobbiest try to bring Trump to not actually do it.

If he actually does it, then the EU can just copy China with the knowledge of that strategy working.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 points 11 hours ago

Yes, US is realizing, well the Orange is, that mindlessly and randomly applying tariffs will mostly hurt both parties. Where this lesson isn't applied in EU case so far. Just talked about what tariffs did you mean? He applied 10% ones which are still there and he talked/applied (not sure, but the difference is in a day at best) reciprocal ones because EU was planning them in a month or so. Then he paused the latter for three months and applying them again after two months. Basically he is totally volatile and unreliable to serious negotiations, a totally opposite to stable :)

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

China really shows the way. Massive hike up and that puts Trump into his place.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just copy China's playbook and don't flinch. Trump will blink first

[–] BigShammy80@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Problem is a lot of companies will crawl on their bellies and start producing in USA to avoid this tariffs.

Some German car manufacturers already think about building a factory in USA.

For big companies it's no ethical thing, it's just about money. Sadly.

[–] Ooops@feddit.org 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Some German car manufacturers already think about building a factory in USA.

German car producers don't think at all. They just love to exist in their total standstill without any need to change or innovate and then cry for public money.

Nobody believes that they will actually go to the US where they would pay massive tarrifs for a lot of their components just to then sell the cars without tarrifs.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 2 points 21 hours ago

German car manufacturers already have plants in the US since many years. The US cars have different regulations and need different parts, and they take advantage of the lower manufacturing costs and don't have to add expensive shipping from Europe to US ports to the sales price.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago

I don't think anybody is considering that for real in these insanely volatile and unpredictable conditions lead by a stupid orange toddler.

[–] Melchior@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

No. Building a factory takes a decade and a lot of money. Chances are very good that Trump flinches, as he did with China. At that point a factory in a cheaper country would be a better deal. So they probably just choose to do nothing and keep their current factories.

However they will promise to built factories, as that is incredibly cheap. It is not like companies are honest.

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Well, they move, we boycott. Simple.

[–] The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org 11 points 1 day ago

Trump: "200%....12%...5,000,000%!!!!"

Shits himself, then capitulates.

[–] judgyweevil@feddit.it 3 points 1 day ago

Recommends to whom, himself?