Windows is slowly transitioning from a paid and solid OS to freemuim spyware bloated dumb OS.
this post was submitted on 13 Nov 2023
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Slowly? This crap has been going on for years.
Yeah slowly, it started years ago but it's been getting worse every version, slowly
Fast would be if windows 8 had ads and non uninstallable internet exploder etc
Fast would be if windows 8 had ads and non uninstallable internet exploder etc
Sounds like someone who doesn't remember windows 8!
Ads: https://hothardware.com/news/microsofts-big-hidden-windows-8-feature-builtin-advertising
They were working on it... and had it working in several places.
Uninstallable IE: https://www.technorms.com/34477/uninstall-internet-explorer-11
While not literally uninstallable... they definitely made it a lot harder.
Windows 7 was the last good version of windows.
Windows 7 was the last good version of windows.
Disagree, 7 wasn't the worst but the last actually good version of windows was XP service pack 2
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Isn't a process happening gradually over years "slowly"?
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Even though Windows is very user-friendly. I think Windows 11 might be my last. The amount of anti-privacy that’s implemented and what I have to do just so it doesn’t constantly phone back home is kind of ridiculous.
Off to pick my flavor of Linux.
I find it strange that people call it user-friendly, despite it doing a lot of things hostile to the user.
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"YOU KNOW WHY I CLICK LATER? BECAUSE THERE'S NO OPTION TO CLICK NEVER! I'D LIKE TO CLICK NEVER! I NEVER WANT TO DOWNLOAD THESE STUPID BULLSHIT FUCKING UPDATES EVER AGAIN!"
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proton is pretty much there, thinking to jump ship to linux - already use it in all my work for decades
2024 the year of Linux. As long as we can avoid the toxic “don’t use Mint, use Arch instead users”.
Also the memey "xxxx the year of Linux". Because that's been going on for 40+ years now. 😅 You use it, or you don't. Your OS is a tool, not a belief system.
This person gets it
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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psst... I hear you're looking to ditch Microsoft. You might like what you see over at c/linux
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This grinds my gears. Apple does the same: my work MBP nags me daily to enable iCloud backups but I have no way of doing it because Apple login is disabled by my administrator. Consequently, I cannot reach the settings page to tell Mac to fuck off.
Is there a newbie way to install it? It looks pretty convoluted...
The best way to install is to use a LIVE edition. This is useful beacuse you have a nice installer intergrated and you can try it before you have to install the OS on the computer.
For download of this edition, see www.debian.org/CD/live
From there, if you come from Windows, I would raccomend KDE, as it is stable and customizable. Search "KDE screenshot" to see what it looks like, and if you like it.
If you want this, here the direct URL to download: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-12.2.0-amd64-kde.iso
Debian should also be lite enough for older machines, and it is the most stable distro I've tried. With this OS, there are already web browser, media player, office suite,... but you can also download Steam, emulators and lots of software
For help you can DM me.
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It's easier than installing Windows. The problem is that someone hasn't already done it for you.
Yes. Did you know that you cannot partition disks in a GUI while installing Windows? You can only select partition to install to or format the entire disk, all advanced actions must be done with diskpart commands in Command Prompt (Shift+F10).
Also OOBE is shit, luckily you can do it offline thanks to C:\Windows\System32\OOBE\bypassnro.bat. And the additional setup like debloating is also time-consuming.
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Only good thing about windows being so bad is that amazing feeling when I finish my homework in Solidworks (🤬) and boot back to my Linux desktop.
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I see this is your first day with a Windows computer. Welcome.
If I had known it was possible to make a local account instead of having to use my outlook for my desktop, I totally would have gone that route a couple years ago. Only plus side I can think of for not doing it is that I have immediate access to my outlook.
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I've always been a power user but never minded Windows until W11. Luckily WSL was a great gateway drug for me and I ended up switching to Linux full-time after living inside WSL for a few weeks.
Why don't you just turn those notifications off?
If I use Windows I use a fully patched IoT LTSC 2019, with O&O ShutUp at somewhat recommended settings.
Is there even a single benefit of this? I don't want anything to do with one drive.
The benefits are:
Data that can be analyzed and form basis of ad profile
Can track you when you are on the move.
Vendor lock-in as you may find that most features are tied to the microsoft account (onedrive, office, outlook)
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I have a Win7 on my PC which I only use for gaming but Steam is telling me it'll stop working on Win7 in about 80 days or so. I installed Win7 on it for a reason but soon it'll be my first ever computer running Linux.
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There's a tool for making bootable windows USB drives called Rufus that gives you options to remove things like requiring a Windows account, TPM requirement for Windows 11, secure boot, etc when you're cloning the iso to the USB drive.
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Windows 10 pushed me into finally jumping into Linux a few years ago. I've been happy ever since it feels good to change what you don't like about a system.
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I see loads of things on here about what Windows does that gets on people's nerves. Why don't I see any of it on my install? I get no ads, annoying pop-ups etc. afaik it's just win11 pro.
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