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Israel genocide wouldn't be possible without US unconditional backup.

The US has delivered 90,000 tons of bombs, guns, and other military equipment to Israel since October 7, 2023, to support the genocidal war against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, according to numbers from the Israeli Defense Ministry.

The ministry stated that the military equipment has included “armored vehicles, munitions, ammunition, personal protection gear, and medical supplies” and that the US support is “a significant component” in ensuring the Israeli military can continue the slaughter in Gaza.

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[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

This is the USAID the republicans can get behind.

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

AIPAC is what fueling this.

[–] cmeu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

90,000 tons of weapons is how many food stamps again?

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We can't help Ukraine, but we're determined to help (by contributing to) a literal full blown genocide. I really hate this administration.

[–] Pfeffy@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Uhhh, Trump hasn't been president for 600 days genius. 80% of that was Biden. You know, the US politician who had taken more money from Israel than any other politician in US history...

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 1 points 2 hours ago

The problem is that american presidents have to be american and elected by american people. What do you expect?

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

I think his issue is that this administration stopped helping Ukraine while still continuing the genocide assistance program.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Not only that. Biden violated US and International law to go around Congress to provide some of that...

Not holding shitty neoliberals accountable for flagrant shit like that only normalizes what trump does and makes idiots think they're equally bad

Like. They're both genocidal assholes, but trump is obviously the worst of the two.

Giving America the choice between two genocidal assholes tho, almost always results in the worst one winning, because they don't lose any votes from their base for supporting genocide.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

That's all thanks to the money flowing into politcs from AIPAC

[–] klao@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

because they don’t lose any votes from their base for supporting genocide

I'm not disagreeing with the rest of what you said, but I'd not be so sure about this last part

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You think Trump's voter have an issue with trump supporting the genocide of Palestinians?

I'm "lucky" to live in a red area, and from what I can see they're happy anytime someone brown or Muslim is hurt. And ecstatic when they're killed.

Their only issue seems to be wanting more death and destruction, not less.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 hours ago

There are some libertarian types who might put up a token objection to medding in foreign conflicts. However, Trump equivocated on foreign policy while Biden and Harris were fully gung ho about getting involved in every conflict everywhere, which allowed Trump to sell himself as more "moderate" on foreign policy (though in reality he's also a hawk).

The core of Trump's base has no problem with it, of course, but they're always going to vote for him and not every voter Trump replied on to win fits that stereotype.

[–] klao@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You said they implying Trump wouldn't be the only one not to lose some votes over it when he'd lie and gaslight all he wants

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Giving America the choice between two genocidal assholes tho, almost always results in the worst one winning, because they don’t lose any votes from their base for supporting genocide.

The "they" refers back to "the worst one".

I wasn't sure if you were trying to say trump wasn't the worst one, but it seems you just didn't understand.

Quick edit:

The singular "they" has been used since before Shakespeare, unless you're a highlander it's older than you are.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Biden is gone now. He can't hurt you.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Reagan is also gone now, guess we can't complain about what he had done either.

[–] SphereofWreckening@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And? He actively and gladly hurt/killed hundreds of thousands to quite possibly millions of people in Gaza through the military aid he supplied Israel for their genocide. Biden's ass cancer can't kill him fast enough.

[–] eurisko@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I cannot — I performatively refuse to — believe that the meaning of « genocide », « fascism » and « nazi » — dogmas that shaped the fundamental beliefs of many generations —would be controversial again.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think that the term 'Nazi' needs to die.

These people are not members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, aka Nazis. They are fascists.

Some of the members of this movement cosplay as Nazis, but they are not Nazis. We call these people, who wear Nazi symbols and glorify the Nazis, neoNazis

Using the term 'Nazi' to describe the fascists taking control of the US Government unnecessarily muddies the discussion on top of being factually incorrect. Words have meaning. Twisting the meaning of words in order to suit your political agenda is irresponsible, at best.

Call fascists fascists because that's what they are. Don't use a term that lets them red herring every conversation by turning it into an argument about the term 'Nazi'.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Just do the https://zionism.wtf/ when it's up again qnd yoy eill how similar both ideology is, thr only difference is who they target

[–] Pfeffy@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

They literally funded the Nazis and tried to ally with them. They are surely close enough to warrant the reminder of that fact.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They did not fund the National Socialist German Workers Party, they funded the AFD. And if you scoff and say "Same thing", well that's exactly the problem we're talking about. They aren't the same thing. They're both fascists, but the AFD are not LITERALLY Nazi's. And so by using Nazi to describe them, you are continuing to muddy the waters and give people a reason to dismiss you.

It is easy for them to ignore being called Nazi's, because they are not literally Nazi's. It is harder for them to ignore being called fascists, because they ARE literally fascists.

[–] Pfeffy@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: הֶסְכֵּם הַעֲבָרָה, romanizedheskem haavara, lit. 'transfer agreement') was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist organizations signed on 25 August 1933.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

They literally funded the Nazis and tried to ally with them. They are surely close enough to warrant the reminder of that fact.

The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: הֶסְכֵּם הַעֲבָרָה, romanized: heskem haavara, lit. ‘transfer agreement’) was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist organizations signed on 25 August 1933.

You're grossly misrepresenting what the Haavara Agreement was.

From the Haavara Agreement wikipedia article:

In an arrangement with the Reich Economics Ministry, the blocked German bank accounts of prospective immigrants would be unblocked and funds from them used by Hanotea to buy agricultural German goods; these goods, along with the immigrants, would then go to Palestine, and the immigrants would be granted a house or citrus plantation by the company of the same value.

The Nazis frozen the accounts of German jews and the Haavara Agreement was an agreement that Jews would leave Germany in exchange for their funds being transferred with them. Nazi was still trying to find solutions to the "Jewish question" and this was seen as a way to coerce Jews into leaving.

This was not Zionists funding Nazi Germany or trying to ally with them. It was a Nazi tactic to financially coerce German jews to leave Germany.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You guys are so weird , you never condemn israel is posts about their crime and just when it is compared with nazi you start arguing when israel methods and statements are very similar to each other

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Who are 'you guys'?

you never condemn israel is posts about their crime and just when it is compared with nazi you start arguing when israel methods and statements are very similar to each other

You're fighting a strawman that you've created in your head that's an amalgamation of every post you disagree with.

You've likely never seen anything that I've written before so you have no basis for anything that you've claimed. Implying that I'm pro-Zionist is very much incorrect.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 0 points 3 hours ago

You guy are the people who got more mad about comparison between israel and nazi then all thr massacres comited every day in gaza

People comment and post history is public for everybody. I know that you don't comment on posts are massacres

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Do you really think hitler did the deal with nothing in return?

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I kinda agree. They are worse than Nazis as they should know better. They soil the memory of their family members that were murdered by Nazis in order to do the same upon others.

[–] gaja@lemm.ee 1 points 13 hours ago

The people of Nazi Germany only halfway understood what was happening, and those who did were thrown in jail if they spoke out. They were told the jews were being rounded up into educational camps.

We executed the nazis. Wish we could send the neo nazis to 1930 germany.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I didn't call them the same thing. It's very different. They built their home on the suffering of their ancestors. They have claimed absolution and mercy over the suffering they had to endure since the diaspora. They are not Nazi's, Nazis killed their grandparents. These are Zionist Jews and that nomer should be as foul as nazi.

So you have misread my comment we are basically in agreement

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

My mistake, I meant to respond to a different reply.