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[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 75 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

20 years for 299 victims. That's just over three weeks per victim.

Although...

Le Scouarnec, 74, has been dubbed France's most prolific paedophile. He is already in jail after being sentenced in 2020 to 15 years for raping and sexually assaulting four children, including two of his nieces.

He'll probably die in jail, so .. there's that.

[–] Maestro@fedia.io 39 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In most western democracies sentences are served in parallel, not consecutively. The US is one of a few crazy places where people get sentences like 3.000+ years, or 161 life sentences.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

In the US, prison sentences can be consecutive or concurrent. It's up to each sentencing (as provided for by law).

[–] TheEntity@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I always thought repeated offenses call for harsher sentences, not milder, but I guess here we are now.

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 18 points 4 days ago (2 children)

20 years is the maximum sentence in France

[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If absolutely is not. 30 years is possible, and en perpétuité (forever) in very rare cases.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

It depends on the offense. Not all offenses have the same maximum.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Does France have the concept of a "violent offender" or medical detention? You basically hold someone indefinitely, routinely assessing if they can be released.

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Apparently: https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9tention_de_s%C3%BBret%C3%A9_en_France

In French criminal law, “rétention de sûreté” is a procedure for placing prisoners who have served their sentence, but who present a very high risk of reoffending because they generally suffer from a serious personality disorder, in a socio-medico-judicial security center. This measure is limited to convictions for the most serious crimes, in particular sex crimes, and must be expressly provided for in the sentencing decision

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I couldn't find an English source, even the English wiki article on preventive detention doesn't list France.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

Thanks. The incongruity between en and fr Wikipedia is sometimes frustrating.

[–] Schmuppes 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The French legal system probably doesn't stack individual sentences and go "I sentence you to a combined twenty-eight thousand years in prison" like they do in the US.

[–] ilovededyoupiggy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

All I know about French prisons I learned from reading Catch Me If You Can. If that's any sort of accurate, he's gonna have a bad time.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 2 points 4 days ago

Abagnale is a bit of an unreliable witness. He blatantly overstates his "exploits".

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

The only real con he pulled was getting people to believe his stories.

And not from old age

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 24 points 4 days ago

While I'm not at all comfortable with the overuse of incarceration in our legal system, some people do need to be contained, like this unfortunate specimen.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Im not usually a proponent of capital punishment, but there's a special place in hell for this man.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 4 points 3 days ago

Well can we seriously assume this man has eternal punishment in hell waiting for him?

If not we should make his time here confronting and uncomfortable, constantly reminding him off his sins.

You must be very certain that death is not a quick release of pain and suffering in order to wish it upon these kind of people.

[–] Doubletake2121@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure Brigitte Bardot will be along shortly to protest the injustice...of a sex criminal suffering the consequences of their actions.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I searched her Wikipedia page and she seems cool as hell, but no mention of prisoners rights advocacy.

[–] Doubletake2121@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's not that. She supported Gerard Depardeau. It was a controversy about sexual assault in the French film industry. There's a bunch of articles covering it.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

EWW!!! Thanks for the context. I did not see that in my skimming.

Although personally I do believe in upholding certain basic rights for all people, criminal or no.

[–] Doubletake2121@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

...don't we all? It's one thing to support basic human decency without going out of your way to defend a clearly predatory industry or person, as she did. As the lack of oversight here allowed this individual to rape 300 people.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

She's a feminist and animal rights activist, yes. She is also pretty islamophobic and racist, also noted on the wiki page.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Guess I'm bad at reading. Seems worthy of a " controversies " section at that point…

[–] faizalr@fedia.io 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

That'd be too easy, I'm in for a damp isolation cell for the rest of his life, and no dental care.

[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee -5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

feet first into a woodchipper set to 1% speed is the only appropriate punishment for that dude

[–] match@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago

every victim should get to kick him once as hard as they like

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago

Give him the needle

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Can somebody explain why every article about this is coupled with a drawing instead of, for example, the face of the piece of shit, or one of those random stock pictures that are often used for similar articles?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 30 points 4 days ago

No cameras in courtrooms.

The US is a weird exception in the western world where people are treated as undeserving of their human rights and privacy rights once they are sentenced for any crime. Elswhere this would be considered completely absurd.

This is the kind of thing you will usually see in court rooms.