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Official Title of this Community: Ethnic Minorities and People of Color

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[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

New black panther in the comics is white and the vast majority of poc don't give a shit because we have real world problems. What a shock. shocked-pikachu

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Everyone just saw it as the bait it was, all to get people to buy some alt universe black panther story

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I just assume its gonna be some guy named white wolf and keep it movng shrug-outta-hecks

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

nah its tchalla's evil white son

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The main riff for the next song laid out

I actually built this riff upon an older djoke comment I made here

After this track, I got one more to write, and it's just gonna be a very short instrumental, like no more than 2.5 minutes most likely.

[–] xj9@hexbear.net 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I've been getting involved with PSL lately. The local comrades are dope

I've started making friends in my area finally! Its been a rough couple of years getting established. Mostly it was a lack of trying and other life shit getting in the way, but that's all behind me now!

[–] peripateticpeasant@hexbear.net 4 points 8 hours ago

Have been sick for a while now. Started scrolling way too much again.

Reached the funny Islamic side, where people accuse eachother of being sufi, madhkalis, pseudo-salafis, kufr, munafiqeen, wahhabis, claims to be the Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah and all other crazy stuff like the hustle culture bros or the Ottoman Empire apologists.

I am tired. What a waste of time. Really need to touch some grass.

[–] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 4 points 18 hours ago

Saw a dude with a keffiyeh print durag today

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Doomer [About the State of Hexbear When It Comes to POC]I've been thinking on whether or not I should start limiting myself to c/em_poc and c/mutual_aid again, and I've been increasingly feeling like it's only right that I do so.

Interacting with white leftist ignorance is just too much of a chore and a toll on my mental health that I currently do not need right now. Hexbear isn't immune to it. In fact, I feel like too many crackers on this site are blinded by the "I'm one of the good ones" mentality to a point that they'd never take a step back in their life to sit and wonder if there's any way they can stop being so fucking upsetting to their EMPOC comrades.

Like I said in this comment,, white Hexbears are not some heightened level of better or less performative than your typical white leftist you'll find anywhere else.

I've been being more and more diligent with the job search and even went about ways of thinking outside the box to see if I can have a more solid chance at landing a gig. Once I actually get a job in the capacity to care for myself, the pattern will stay the same: I will only use this site for c/em_poc and c/mutual_aid, but in this case, I hope I can start using the latter more as a donor than a recipient. Unfortunately, the trans clinic job did not accept me.

It's really sad for me to sit here and reflect on the fact that, though I'm a newish user, I've heard of many past incidences of EMPOC Hexbears leaving this site because of this shit. It's really depressing, but it's not shocking, and it's not like it's any bit reasonable for me to expect this site to ever get any better about it. doomer

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Im wondering how it would be received if one points out that possibly the biggest reason next to hell maybe bigger than class , America doesn't have healthcare, public spending etc that resembles even socdem levels is because of racism both anti black and towards the latino population with all the border fear mongering (asian folks as well). Hell race and class intertwined a lot because America been kind of a caste system for a while.

People like Frederick Ludwig Hoffman justified African Americans being charged higher insurance premiums with race science and he is very influential since then in the industry and the zeitgeist. His works were part of what was used to argue against a single healthcare system. Teddy Roosevelt at a critical time was promoting social healthcare and Hoffman stepped in to oppose it. The insurance company he work with were critical in what stopped the idea of single healthcare system proliferating.

Hell several insurance companies still charged higher insurance premiums blatantly for black people until 1984. Hell education system too zip codes and all that. These are just a few examples

Its no coincidence why chuds hell even libs point to racial homogeneity as a reason for why Japan china norway etc have better healthcare etc. It ain't no coincidence even lib politicians are subtle about the replacement theory with immigration. I ain't gonna say no class because class will always be a constant struggle but in a society with damn near caste system where race and class are treated almost the same down to material conditions for a long time there with a few exceptions its hard to ignore this shit.

I ain't gonna say no class because class will always be a constant struggle but in a society with damn near caste system where race and class are treated almost the same down to material conditions for a long time there with a few exceptions its hard to ignore this shit.

The Wretched of the Earth quote

In the colonies the economic substructure is also a superstructure. The cause is the consequence; you are rich because you are white, yon are white because you are rich. This is why Marxist analysis should always be slightly stretched every time we have to do with the colonial problem.

[–] peripateticpeasant@hexbear.net 7 points 21 hours ago

I am 100% convinced that for the majority of the Hexbear user base, that if they started living in a Global South country they’d turn to a NATO-supporting liberal so fast. Simple class interests.

Suddenly all this posturing of being part of a “radical” political minority falls flat.

[–] LoveYourself@hexbear.net 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like too many crackers on this site are blinded by the "I'm one of the good ones" mentality to a point that they'd never take a step back in their life to sit and wonder if there's any way they can stop being so fucking upsetting to their EMPOC comrades.

You're not doomer. You're just right.

[–] LoveYourself@hexbear.net 12 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

It will never not be baffling to me that Luigi is a hero but God forbid a non-white person denazifies some genocidal zionists.

The settler & petty boug urge to label anti-colonial violence as "adventurist" reveals the state of things quite clearly.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Not to mention, Luigi has some really iffy stuff on his social media before his arrest. When this got pointed out, crackers went ballistic at how PoC maybe weren't comfortable jumping to his defense the same way we don't jump to the defense of Pelosi/Trump's would-be assassins.

I think it was you (?) who in another thread pointed out the left is so unorganized and deeply unserious that it can't capitalize on justifiable adventurism and redirect it into material, systemic change. Conditions in Palestine and the Philippines are both worse, yet they managed to have leftists organizing armed resistance while Americans just kind of sit on our thumbs calling AES tankies/crazy/etc.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Bruh mandem said oh hamas and Hezbollah also have problematic views so comparable. Another famous poster went in on frauddogg for not supporting racist chit as critical support. So now critical support being used against poc that look sideways at some shit.

[–] peripateticpeasant@hexbear.net 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I am trying to find a different piece of work of Lenin that talks about the role the masses in not commenting the national affairs of countries that their nation-state is in imperialist war with but I can’t find it.

Regardless any Global South radical knows this, whether through explicit radical theory or through culture, of not interfering in other people’s affairs especially when you lack the knowledge or ability to affect it.

But in the meanwhile I found this which I find perfect for this context in Opportunism, and the Collapse of the Second International:

Kautsky wants to represent the golden mean, and to reconcile the “two extremes” which “have nothing in common”! Today (sixteen months after the outbreak of war) he admits that the masses are revolutionary. Condemning in the same breath revolutionary action, which he calls “Abenteuer” “in den Strassen”[4] (p. 272), Kautsky wants to “reconcile” the revolutionary masses with the opportunist leaders, who have “nothing in common” with them—but on what basis ? On the basis of mere words! On the basis of “Left-wing” words of the “Left-wing” minority in the Reichtag! Let the minority, like Kautsky, condemn revolutionary action, calling it adventurism, but it must feed the masses with Left-wing words. Then there will be peace in the Party, unity with the Südekums, Legiens, Davids, and Monitors!

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

I casually said the line, "Heterosexuals are the white people of sexualities," while talking to someone, and I don't know why it goes so hard.

[–] Poetjustice@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

I actually did advocacy for the city council hearing that Adam Friedland was trolling during the cold open of his new Ro Khanna episode.

If anyone is in NYC and interested, the NYPD runs an entirely secretive gang database which basically only registers Black and Latino young men. No italian mobsters, no Chinese street gangs. There have been kids as young as 12 added onto there and some people found themselves on there because they posted a selfie with a gang member or live in a public housing complex where gang activity occurs.

A specific case was when a graduate student in Connecticut got arrested for a RICO bust over Bronx gang activity because he featured people in his neighborhood in his amateur hip-hop videos. The federal prosecutor threatened him with the death penalty so he pled guilty to a weed trafficking charge and ended up getting kicked out of college right before graduation and lost his scholarship/financial aid. He’s delivery DoorDash right now.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

leftist game club

by leftist, they mean vote blue, Trump is icky, and they have anti-fascist flags

I know it's reactionary to not want to agitate and organize, but I really don't feel like getting these crackers in shape. Some of them are volunteering to do free labor for a "small business owner," who may be the only one who's actually read any theory. And by theory, I mean The Communist Manifesto and Animal Farm.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

vote blue, Trump is icky, and they have anti-fascist flags

Chud: "Sounds like a communist to me."

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago
[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Those SA refugees about to be in for a shock when they find out they won't be able to afford the private schools they always send their kids to and your foreign degrees will be under scrutiny like a mf when job hunting. i-cant

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Something tells me they’ll be alright in this country

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They may be fine by our or normal standards but back home they lived like kings basically. Domestic workers at their beck and call. Its gonna be a major downgrade. And they're spoiled af. The only dialogue I remember with em is some or other type of complaint.

[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

arroz y frijoles pretty much everyday for me, added in some carne de soya and I'm set. Also salsa to make it go down easier, my classmates seeing me eating this everyday and wonder how I do it but I'm just built different shrug-outta-hecks

[–] LoveYourself@hexbear.net 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So the undocumented Arab man living in an extremely white city in the belly of the beast who was so fed up with seeing his cousins in Palestine be exterminated that he attacked a pro-genocide rally is now considered "mentally unwell"?!?! Unwell because he spoke in broken English? Or was it because he died his hair blonde to be less conspicuous when he purposefully set up incendiary against fascist genocide supporters? Or perhaps he was "mentally unwell" after witnessing everyone around him do nothing about the live-streamed genocide over 18 months?

The smug racists on this platform are outrageous. I'm going to touch grass for awhile and log out.

at first I thought you were talking about the reaction from main stream media, white people are white still

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Never liked that amy schumer character but her weaponising Jewish allyship with poc to gain support for this genocide will always piss me off

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I grew up around a lot of Jewish kids and many of them would do this. At first I thought "wow, I didn't know Jewish people were that much into civil rights" but now when I take their allyship, and the comments I also heard like "They were hiding in hospitals so it had to be bombed", then I know they're just trying to take credit for civil wins to spend on downplaying war crimes.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Its fucked because there are plenty who ars genuine about thr allyship but ones like schumer marguiles hammer the poc and lgbt saying oh they wouldn't accept you in Palestine unlike in Israel. That good old western spin.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I mean, neither would accept poc let’s be honest. I used to work for a palestinian guy and he’d be racist to me all the time

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't extrapolate your lived experienced though.

I'd wager no one else in this Earth has as much settler-colonial brainworms as Americans, Israelis, Australians, and so forth

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think people outside of America would be any less racist to poc in America

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don’t think people outside of America would be any less racist to poc in America

I argue it would have a more potent racism, due to it functionally justifying their society and economic mode of production, built upon the basis of dispossessing indigenous people's land and livelihoods and expanding this further else upon their region. In essence, their identity, economy, society requires that racism live, more longer, compared to Palestine, which has lack of need for it.

I was assuming you're generalizing and equating Falastinis with Israelis, in terms of racism, but as much as a Falastini will be racist to you, Israelis would be worse, due to the material system that racism lives with, and is in fact, supported by.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don’t really think it makes a material difference to the individual

Fine, agree to disagree.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Always with the White Man's Burden shit. "They are uncivilized therefore indiscriminate bombing is good, actually." They just switched from Christianity, art, music, and literature to civil rights.

This is like a daily discussion here.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

There is also those who point out the gdp differences between Palestine and Israel. I fucking wonder why that is

[–] la_tasalana_intissari_mata@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

do they think that the patients in the hospitals wouldn't hear a missile being fired right above them?

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Even when I didn't understand what isntreal was doing back then, I knew blowing up hospitals because "terrorist are hiding in them" sounded insane. I assumed they were empty/evacuated because no reasonable person would thinking blowing up an occupied hospital because "terrorists" are hiding in them is a good solution.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

Remember that time Obama drone striked a hospital Doctors Without Borders was working out of? I don't even remember who they were planning on taking out. Like he did it just because he could.

White people ran out of ideas with South Africa, with other colonies they're like "oh the technology, the education" there they're like "the white farmers" what do you mean white farmers? was they lack of melanin making the plants grow faster?

[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

Happy Pride Month to all the LGBT++ homies.

I’m starting my job search in earnest today. Need to find a real grown-ass man job in computers and soon. I know we justly clown on techbros but my only job experience is in computers and IT. I do dread finding another MEGACORP gig, as they are all weirdly racist and sexist in lots of ways it’s hard to put into words. Yeah there is a lot of explicit and overt stuff but there so much implied and covert stuff. Work is such a racket.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Imma call BBC news Bibi C news. The state of them cringe

Weren't they always like that?

[–] LoveYourself@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

Gotta be my favorite pride flag 🫡

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I woke up today forgetting that it's pride month, and it feels sad because I know the reason why: I've distanced myself from LGBTQ+ spaces so much that it just didn't occur to me like it has for the past few years. Why? Because most of the LGBTQ+ spaces I've interacted with are overwhelmingly white, and the experiences with that, as you would expect, are

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Why do racist White Americans adopt nonwhite kids as much as they do? I see this a lot from Guatemalan adoptees. They’re always very visibly mestizo or indigenous kids with Anglo names like Jason Smith who were raised by a racist straight or lesbian couple.

They come down here and talk about how thankful they were to be away from this hellhole (their own words) and will brag about their white spouses who tend to be just as racist as their parents. Their politics range from being far-right to neoliberal with the only leftists I’ve met being those with an estranged relationship with their parents.

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