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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 67 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

im pretty sure aggression is bred in for some dogs for thier purpose of being a gaurd dog, or something as bull baiting. also cats can be unpredictabally aggressive.

[–] Wolf 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's a little of column A, a little of column B

Yes, it's true that some dog breeds have been bred to be more aggressive- but aggressive can mean many things.

I was roommates with a guy who had a Pit bull. Awesome dog, great with the kids. Never seen her so much as growl at a person. Animals though she did not fuck around with. And that makes sense, they were bred to fight other animals. So while they are aggressive, they aren't (naturally) aggressive towards humans, though obviously you can train them to be.

I had a different roommate who had a Chihuahua, Chihuahua's were bred for two things, to be fearless rat hunters and to be burglar alarms. They also have a personality quirk where they typically only bond with very few people, and even then it can take a little while for them to gain your trust. For about the first month after he brought her home she would bark at me every time I entered the room she was in. After she got used to me, she was the sweetest little pup you could imagine. If anyone else came by she just couldn't handle it. If I picked her up and held her while talking the other person she would eventually calm down some, but she still didn't like it. You usually just had to put her in a different room. She didn't nip at them or anything, but if they had tried to pick her up it probably would have been a different story.

Not all Chihuahua's behave like that, but it's typical.

I've lived with a Doberman who was a total coward (and neurotic the poor thing), and a Rottweiler who was perfectly fine with me, until her owner was out of sight, and then she acted like she had no idea who I was. As a kid we had a German Sheppard who was a total sweetie (the kitten thing was an accident), and I used to own a Chow/Lab mix who literally loved everyone and everything.

The breed plays a big role in their behavior, but so does training/ socialization. People who blame it solely on one thing or the other are just wrong imo. Some dogs will never be perfectly chill, but you can train them not to be assholes.

Shhh the entire concept of genetics is a big ol conspiracy that makes people who live in a fantasy where they control everything through behavior and education, since that is the only thing they control, really hurt. If you point out some things are destined (yes I know nature/nurture) they lose control because their fantasy collapses by conflicting world views.

This is probably what pebbles (who wouldn't hurt a fly ™️ ) thinks anyway

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago

It's literally why they're called bully breeds.

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[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

The oxytocin release lol

[–] mysticpickle@lemmy.ca 65 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)
[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (10 children)

"It can happen to ANY family by ANY breed of dog! 1"

They make it sound like bull dogs of all varieties - and other fighting dogs bred for many generations for aggressive traits - are just really unlucky, that they keep showing up at the top of the stats for child murder and mauling.

Only unlucky ones are the kids who have parents dumb enough to risk their lives with killer breeds in the house. I truly feel for them.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Jesuschrist

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[–] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 79 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I have a pitbull (American pitbull terrier) that is a rescue. He loves people, but is so aggressive towards other animals that I can hardly believe it.

After having one for years now, I believe there should be some sort of training or licensing requirement before someone can own one. The combination of innate aggression and power is truly dangerous

I can never walk my dog off-leash, I can never hand my dog to someone inexperienced. I love my dog, but responsible ownership is much more burdensome than any other dog I've had.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 3 days ago

Yep, adopted a pit bull several years back and had to re-home it after it attacked my border collie twice and if I wasn't nearby he would have killed her.

Got him as a puppy, raised him the exact same way we did the collie. He would just...snap randomly and go into attack mode. I also couldn't believe it. He was great with people though. Other pets and animals was a totally different story.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Honestly all pets should have a liscence, that includes going through at least some certification for them since there isn't a reason to own one.

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[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sadly the remaining 95% owners of pitbulls "love them so much" they'd start literal riots if that becomes law. Because you know they wouldn't be able to pass the training, or even sit through it.

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Pitbulls attract some of the worst owners. Some people purposely get these dogs BECAUSE they are aggressive.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 87 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Two things are true at once

(1) Upbringing has an enormous impact on agression in dogs. To the point it actually can be a stronger variable in the prediction than breed.

(2) Some breeds still have stronger tendencies towards agression.

But I agree with this sign’s main point. Banning pitbulls won’t stop the agressive dogs problem. Because the kind of people who usually buy pitbulls raise dogs to be agressive.

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[–] Gerudo@lemm.ee 51 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As someone who has raised and fostered dozens of dogs over the years, actual Pitbull breeds DO tend to have problems with aggression. I had one Pit rescue that absolutely loved people, dogs, and cats, and for a couple of years, it was one of the best dogs I had taken in. Until one day he wasn't, he snapped and almost killed another foster we had.

I have had about a dozen or so mixed bully breeds and breeds like American Bulldogs, and not a single one ever gave me a moments hesitation. There absolutely is something in the full blood Pit breed that is an issue. I honestly believe we could breed aggression out of the breed, but it would more than likely just need to end up a bully mutt breed instead.

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[–] fujiwood@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago

Aggression is bred. I don't see this as funny.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is true but it's part of what makes chihuahuas awesome. My ex had a chihuahua that we raised from a puppy. We were totally nice and he was still psycho. He would attack me if I woke him up too early in the morning. I had to pick him up in a huge pillow as defense. He would go bananas trying to attack strangers but it's only because he was "defending" himself and our pack. The worst part of breaking up is missing that dude. Awesome dog.

Also lots of chihuahuas are totally chill.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Meanwhile, dog breeders over the last century or two:

No, no, no. We specifically bred them with high levels of agression so they'd be more vicious and willing to fighting eachother.

[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 43 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Fuck pitbulls. There, I said it.

[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Honestly, there's a million breeds. Fuck those people who deliberately choose aggressive, dangerous ones. Especially fuck them if they have their own children!

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