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North Carolina parents charged with involuntary manslaughter when 7 year old son was killed by a 76 year old driver (www.nbcnews.com)
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The grieving parents of a 7-year-old child who died hours after being hit by a car were charged with involuntary manslaughter after allowing him and his brother, 10, to walk home unaccompanied by an adult from a nearby grocery store.

The 76-year-old driver will not face any charges.

The Food Lion store is two blocks away from their home. The parents said the children were with their mother when they asked to meet their father at the store, and she allowed them to leave

Gastonia police declined to comment to NBC News, but said in a statement that “there is no evidence of speeding or wrongdoing on the part of the driver, therefore no charges have been filed. The driver continues to be cooperative and the incident remains under active investigation by the Gastonia Police Department’s Traffic Division.”

Ivey, the mother, told WSOC before her arrest that it was the first time had she let the children walk alone. “It was just devastating, I’m still in shock, I’m in shock,” she said. “It’s hard, I haven’t stopped crying; my husband hasn’t stopped crying. Honestly, I want justice for my baby.”

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[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 65 points 2 days ago (5 children)

“In such cases, adults must be held accountable for their responsibilities to ensure a safe environment for their children,” police said in a statement.

I think the only way I can interpret this is for parents to begin a firebombing campaign against all unoccupied motor vehicles found in their area. Parents need to, according to this pig, ensure a safe environment for their children. That could only mean the utter destruction of every high velocity metal weapon on wheels within their immediate area, what else could it mean? Two blocks from any home would, I think, constitute their immediate environment. Spike strips on main roads. Sugar in gas tanks. Pierced tires in parking lots. The destruction will end when they have created a safe environment for their children. Anyone objecting to this action by extension would be a tangential threat to their child's safety, and should be moved from the environment into another environment where there are no children.

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That'd be fun, wouldn't it? But we all know what this truly is intended as is a rallying call to keep them chained to an iPad inside.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

yells-at-cloud Back in my day, I would walk to school by myself when I was in elementary school. By middle school, I was walking two blocks to hang out at a friend's house every weekend. I would walk to the corner store at the end of the street to buy snacks if I had the money. I would ride my bike a handful of miles from home to go to the arcade at the mall nearby. In the 80s they made movies about kids walking along train tracks to find a dead body!

I mean, the obvious motivation here is racism, as other commenters have pointed out.

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago

I mean, the obvious motivation here is racism, as other commenters have pointed out.

Oh definitely but I do think there is a separate ideological move at play as I believe I have seen similar things used to disparage white folk as well. I have interacted with a lot of people who genuinely believe not monitoring your kids for most of the day is reckless behavior and some people even have reported the cops have been called on them for letting their kids play on their own lawn unmonitored. (Which if that is a crime my family needs to be sent to the prison camps).

Heck, I grew up in the 2000s and was not allowed to go more than 2-3 houses away excluding the occasional B-line to a specific friend's house who lived just outside that radius until I was about 10 or so. I had assumed it was a one-off thing at the time and my family quickly relented randomly after I hit double digits (I swear some people just place arbitrary markers for what is allowed) but saw it apply to more and more kids as I was a teen and several members of the cohort just behind me had similar if not stricter rules than I did.

I don't think it is just racism as play, there is a very push towards the idea being outside is extremely unsafe which has been happening for quite some time.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

Everybody is expected to be a "cop" and police everybody else's behavior at all times.

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Parents have the right to defend ~~themselves~~ their children.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"All Cops Are Bastards" gang solidarity "All Cars Are Burning" gang

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All unoccupied motor vehicles in the vicinity? That hardly solves the problem. Those things can travel through that "immediate area" range in one minute.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

I take care of my area and you take care of yours and so on down the line, then by god there won't be a car left.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 52 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Gastonia police [...] said in a statement that “there is no evidence of [...] wrongdoing on the part of the driver

They ran over a kid

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago

The expectation that people are responsible in any way for what they do behind the wheel of a car is long gone. My favourite example, and I do bring this up often, is people referring to accidents with nobody but them involved other than a tree or something in the passive as "having been in a car accident". It's not even my fault if I take a corner too fast and slide sideways into a tree, that tree shouldn't have been there, that road should've been straighter.

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 66 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Walking 2 blocks to a store is such a foreign concept to most Americans that they feel its a crime to let kids walk that far unaccompaniedjoker-amerikkklap

Gastonia police declined to comment to NBC News, but said in a statement that “there is no evidence of speeding or wrongdoing on the part of the driver, therefore no charges have been filed. The driver continues to be cooperative and the incident remains under active investigation by the Gastonia Police Department’s Traffic Division.”

Two dead kids, no wrongdoings heredean-smile

[–] Bruja@hexbear.net 62 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The article is trash and muddies the details. They were walking home from the store. Kids that age certainly are going to not want to be grocery shopping with their mom for long. One of the boys wasn’t hit, he was on the phone with the father who heard the whole incident.

The parents being a black dad and white mom probably has a lot to do with the charges in a state where anti miscegenation laws prevented interracial marriage until 1977. The driver and the police chief were alive and experienced relationships like this as illegal.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago

Yeah, only reason I opened the article was to check the negligence/tragedy chart. us-foreign-policy

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Negligence is an actual defense the porks are using.

“It’s not violence if it’s not what I INTEND to happen, your suffering is just a byproduct, nothing personal! Somehow me knowingly harming you doesn’t violate the NAP!”

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

carbrain and racism, this fucking sucks man

death to america

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

porky-happy: “You wanna walk? Oh look at mr. Fancy pants here with his expensive fancy tastes! I see you have an appreciation for the finer things in life like me, kiddo! Too bad we decided walkability is for us rich folk only. Don’t worry, you poors just love wasting time and money on your cars, it makes me happy when you’re forced to hand over more money to me!”

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Everyone seems obsessed, or rather I should say that capital is obsessed, with blaming parents for shit that's clearly society's fault. Kids not going to school, kids not succeeding, kids being hungry, kids being bored and causing trouble. To me it's obvious that it's just a way to shift more unpaid labour onto people.

I definitely don't mean this as an antinatalist argument. But it's funny/sad how leaders complain that people don't want to have kids, all the while making it as hard as possible to have kids.

[–] Nama@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

They should really rephrase going to school because, as the article proves, that act is just illigal now in the states.

Like holy fuck are you cooked. I can't even find words for how deeply wrong and fucked up this all feels.

[–] homhom9000@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago

1.5 million bond??? For losing your son? This is nothing but racism

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago

Cars always get the cop treatment in the Burger Reich.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Suburbs are designed for social murder.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

fuck prosecutors

redacted-1redacted-2 prosecutors

[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I just genuinely don't understand what the prosecutors in this case think they're fucking doing. They're going to waste a ton of fucking time and money to send the parents to prison and fuck up the other kid's childhood. There is no dangerous criminal to be isolated from society, they're just making everything worse. How can they live with themselves?

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago

In a car brained society, so something like the US, prosecutors will often sympathize way harder with the car driver than anybody else unless there's two of them involved.

They can see themselves whoopsy-ing a child to death in their car much more than they can see themselves having children or alternatively not keeping those children imprisoned until they can drive their own cars or being somewhere where "this sort of thing doesn't happen."

Sometimes it's a bit more subtle, like here, but surprisingly often prosecution or even the judges will just directly come out and say such things. It's just most car "accidents" don't make any sort of national or even regional news on account of how ubiquitous they are so it's mostly buried in boring ass local court files.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

atp i think they're just ontologically evil

[–] dead@hexbear.net 35 points 2 days ago

North Carolina is a fucked up place. Very car dependent culture. I don't think the parents should be charged. A 76 year old probably shouldn't be driving.

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I've never understood manslaughter as a charge, what is the obsession of sending someone to prison for an accident?

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

From my understanding, the idea is that it is negligent behavior that caused the accident. Basically the crime is that you behaved recklessly in a manner that led to someone's death. I.e. If I decide to do my best Revolver Ocelot gun spinning impression and fuck it up and shoot you, or I'm doing my best Initial-D impression and bowl over a child or something, that is manslaughter. I think reducing it to just money is a bit reductive, there are plenty of other easy ways to get people into the prison pipeline too.

It makes it extra fucked that they're charging the parents with this because of that as a crucial point of manslaughter is assigning blameworthiness. Thus, this charge, in being applied, is attributing the blame for the child's death to the parents being negligent by checks notes walking two blocks to the store.

Edit: Swapped reckless for negligence. There is a difference legally speaking but it has been ages since I've taken a law class and I'm no lawyer so I mixed the two up. My examples are recklessness as opposed to negligence but I can't be bothered to go back and amend more.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Of course, we will never see oil and gas companies get charged for macro-level manslaughter.

porky-scared-flipped: “Me? A murderer? Oh nononono kiddo, you see, it’s not like I PERSONALLY wanted to hurt people, I just wanted to make money and other people just so happened to be collateral damage! It’s not like I MEANT it!”

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

Or mining companies involved in multiple environmental disasters that killed the river they took their name from. Also not nearly enough compensation for all of the people that lost their homes and everything they owned

[–] MizuTama@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

I mean of course, what they did they are not culpable for as companies are at the behest of shareholders and cannot act against them. What's that? Apply the logic to the shareholders then? Well, they aren't culpable as they didn't tell the company do to this, just to maximize profits, it's not their fault this company acted so unethically to do so. What's that? Then the company should be to blame? Well, they aren't culpable as they didn't know (they did) that they were doing such atrocities. Or if they did know they were really given no choice but not to seek to cut costs and corners and the shareholders pressured them hard to do so. What's that?...

And if you do find somewhere along the lines someone has a hard time denying culpability with our little death spiral, we have to slap a fine on them and call it a day. Jail? Well how could a company go to jail idiot, are you dumb? Break up their company? Think of all the jobs and the economy and how poor you'll be with expensive gas. We would really truly love to but it would ruin all of us so has to be tolerated for the greater good. Besides this fine which is 0.00001% of their profits will totally deter them. (If that is the case tickets should be a few cents logically).

[–] ouRKaoS 1 points 1 day ago

After reading a few more comments, they were walking home from the store, and the 10 year old was on the phone with his father.

At that age I had to walk 4 blocks to catch the bus to school, and cell phones weren't a thing yet.

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

punishment fetish

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

The criminalization of accidents (unless the driver was indeed speeding) is an underexposed aspect of the US criminal "justice" system, and when paired with the phenomenon of affluenza where elites are simply not prosecuted for crimes.....

The only conclusion to draw is that this case like so many, is an example of racial class warfare

[–] FanofOatmeal@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

anti-cracker-aktion

[–] NeelixBiederman@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Extremely sad.

The brothers had to cross the busy, four-lane road, but attempted to go between crosswalks.

Please use crosswalks.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Please use crosswalks.

I think this is rather the wrong thing to take away from this whole thing

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

It's pretty common in amerikkka for cars to ignore crosswalks. I get honked at frequently by assholes whenever I stop for people.