Fuck AI

1200 days of language learning? Different languages or the same one? If it’s the same one you probably don’t need an app anymore. Try talking to natives in your chosen second language. You might be surprised how much you know. I used duo for about a year when i moved to a different language country. After that year i found it was holding me back more than helping.

I'm a fan of lingodeer a lot so far. Already learned more in 40 days than I did with 5 months of Duolingo

Same, I was a couple weeks shy of 1500, I think. Can't say I really miss it, I wasn't getting anything out of it except big number.

In my opinion duolingo type apps should never beeused more than about 90 days. Those first few months when you know nothing they are a good way to get something but as time goes on your time is better spent in native content.

I'll check this out. I feel I've had some progress, but it really does plateau.

Lingonaut seems promising, but it isn't open source, or at least not yet. The creator seems open to being convinced though?

Early Duolingo was curated and corrected by the community. Clearly people were volunteering to do it, so I don't know why they removed all the community tools and are now using AI to fill the gap.

the problem is them or some other vc backed thief will use all those resource to give it for free with much better packaging then go back to their parasitic way once that foss project is dead.

Probably not quite what you're looking for, but there's Anki, a software for flashcards. It has some shared decks available for download, and you can make and potentially share your own. It can also be used to study things besides languages.

Congrats on taking a difficult step towards improving your learning. I moved away from Duolingo a while ago, and in hindsight, it was a significant boost to my language skills; it was only after I had left that I realised that Duolingo is better at hooking people with gamification than it is at actually teaching language skills (even before the AI trash became prominent). I hope that you experience similar productivity.

I feel like people constantly shit on Duolingo and other things like it, especially compared to other forms of language study like full classes, immersing yourself in that language via cultural exports (movies, TV shows, books, etc.), or interacting with people that speak that language.

But I think that's kinda missing the point — Duo and other programs structured like it offer a way to learn a decent chunk of a language without a lot of effort. If you put in a bit of time every day or so and take things at least a little seriously, my understanding is that you can learn a lot. Maybe you won't be truly fluent, and certainly you won't learn as much as you would with intensive self-structured learning or classes at a university, but it takes way less effort and is far more approachable.

That being said, definitely look somewhere else now that Duolingo is using AI.

My understanding is that you won't get fluent but it would give you up to a middle school level understanding, depending on the language. French and Spanish were more advanced than Mandarin or Welsh.

I learned the basics of spanish with it. Now i’m pretty decent at it. I used duo for about a year and then just started talking to spanish speakers. This was years and years ago though.