Calling it...Trump declares California to be in rebellion and suspends their votes in the electoral college and congress in the next elections.
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So much other stuff will happen before then
This doesn't read as just California. It's the whole country.
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This is the language from the law that would permit the President to mobilize National Guard troops in a state without its Governor's consent.
Edited to add: found the law here, it's small and easy to read: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2011-title10/html/USCODE-2011-title10-subtitleE-partII-chap1211-sec12406.htm
If it is invoked, it says:
Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States
But I parse that "shall" to mean the Governor is forced to comply.
How long until he declares Martial Law?
I mean, this is technically exactly that, albeit in a much more limited scope.
The last time this was invoked was in 1965, during civil rights demonstrations in Alabama. But the Federal Government sent in the troops to protect the demonstrators from their local police.
https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/march-20/lbj-sends-federal-troops-to-alabama
This time it's the other way around.
Honestly one of the coolest moments in US history.
I feel like the destruction of the image of the United States is in full swing.
The image of the United States was destroyed twenty years ago. It became irreparable in 2016. What's happening now is, since Trump has destroyed all of America's diplomatic and economic leverage, we can finally be honest about what we think of you.
While semantically I have issues with what you said, they're not important. Overall, I agree with you. One thing I think the important take away should be the reasons I hate America is because it could be so much better. Not every American is blindly patriotic.
I cannot stress the so much better part enough.
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That's true. However, I'm afraid that the current regime is not only working to destroy the image of the United States, but to destroy what remains of democracy.
It seems that Drump and his henchmen will stop at nothing to establish a fascist state. I think the administration's actions as a whole point strongly in that direction.
Would be interesting if there is a way that people on the right actually join the left on this since this is the thing the right armed themselves for
The pattern I see is that most on "the right" here will not be able to break out of their disinformation bubble unless it affects them personally. So only the small portion who have seen someone they know ("one of the good ones") harassed by ICE will respond.
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They won't.
All of their rhetoric is bullshit to obscure the fact that they hate brown people, queer people, people who aren't their religion, just anyone they're angry at, really.
It really is that simple.
They'll believe, to some extent, what they are saying, they'll tie themselves up in knots, but ultimately, they'll default to anything that allows them to laugh when people they think they are better than are made to suffer.
The few that manage to resolve the cognitive dissonance and realize they are in fact hateful bigots, and that... that is bad?
At that moment, they are no longer right wing.
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You know if you shatter a spark plug, those little bits will 100% break a car window when thrown?
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our national guard and armed forces have a decision to make: us or them. this is your time to reject fascism.
Many who join lean conservative. Many are trump supporters. Don't forget the numbers that voted for him and continue to support him.
It's not going to be that easy.
it doesn't matter how easy or difficult it will be it needs to be done. the alternative is unfathomable.
Not really. The military is a lot more diverse than you probably realize. It's a big melting pot. So many stories of rural Americans raised in racist environments joining the military and being exposed to all kinds of people and realizing they grew up kind of fucked up.
Contrary to what the stereotype is. A lot of military people are pretty wise and worldly. Seeing different cultures and having to deal with the fallout of failed states. It's not like they're progressives or even Lefty's. But they're not MAGA or right either.
This is why they've been firing lots of officers as well. If nobody is aware, the trump government has been removing many many senior leadership in the military.
I think the move right now by the left is to build bridges for people on the right who have spent their life fearing this type of action. Need to leave open the possibility that there are people on the right who understand this isn't good. Obviously there's the trump zealots. But I bet there's a group of right wingers whose fear of government over reach supersedes support for Trump. Groups like the heritage foundation will increase not activity to suppress that mentally among them. But I think we'll start seeing them speak up if we listen.
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Oh this ia what they want. They are chomping at designating leftists as enemies of the state.
The government in general is crumbling and it's corrupt "leaders" will need to ramp up authoritarianism as the constituents begin to question it's legitimacy.
They'll make use of dissenters by putting them in work camps, easing the need for cheap labor, and allowing the remaining population a chance at hiding from their duty to protect constitutional rights by continuing to provide material comforts.
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I wonder now what my ex-housemate thinks of Trump. He is one of those centrist types who thinks excessive power from one side needs to be counteracted by the other, but mostly pay lip service to the right. He dislikes the right in his country which ruled for 13 years and voted centre left, but supports Trump and right wing parties in Europe because of too much immigration in the West. But at the same time, he supports Palestine. My ex-housemate means well for the most part, but he is one of those men who are vulnerable to disinformation.
He dislikes the right in his country which ruled for 13 years and voted centre left, but supports Trump and right wing parties in Europe because of too much immigration in the West
If feels like you're burying the lede here.
"In his country" suggests he's an immigrant. This means he too, is an immigrant right? How does he resolve this hypocrisy? Or when he says "too much immigration in the West" is he just a racist and is referring to people with different color skin?
“In his country” suggests he’s an immigrant. This means he too, is an immigrant right? How does he resolve this hypocrisy?
Duh, because he's one of the good immigrants.
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Or the person you're replying to, talking about an EX-house mate is the the immigrant. You're reading suggestions that aren't there.
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Sounds like it's going to be a violent summer. As soon as the first protestor gets injured or killed, this will start to spin out of control.
L.A. County Supervisor Janice Hahn said:
"The ICE raids across Los Angeles today are chilling. They aren't targeting violent criminals - they are sweeping up hardworking people in our communities just trying to provide for their families. These agents are armed to the teeth and it is clear their goal is to make people afraid and it's working. I understand that during this morning's raids, SEIU California President David Huerta was injured by federal agents and wrongfully detained. I am calling for his immediate release. This is a democracy. People have a right to peacefully protest, to observe law enforcement activity, and to speak out against injustice."
Service Employees International Union California President David Huerta was injured and detained while documenting an immigration enforcement raid in downtown Los Angeles on Friday.
Huerta, 58, was treated at a hospital and then transferred to the Metropolitan Detention Center in downtown L.A.
“What happened to me is not about me; This is about something much bigger,” he said in a statement from the hospital. “This is about how we as a community stand together and resist the injustice that’s happening. Hard-working people, and members of our family and our community, are being treated like criminals. We all collectively have to object to this madness because this is not justice.”
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-06-07/immigration-raids-roil-l-a-what-you-need-to-know
A senior DHS spokesperson sent ABC7 a statement Friday, but did not directly address the investigations at both locations.
The statement said in part, "ICE is now following the law and placing these illegal aliens in expedited removal, as they always should have been."
If they have a valid credible fear claim, they will continue in immigration proceedings, but if no valid claim is found, aliens will be subject to a swift deportation."
The SEIU President David Huerta is literally the Union leader for the restaurants targeted by these raids.
"Expedited removal" means no due process. No judge. No justice. ICE rolled in with military vehicles, ~~arrested~~ kidnapped over a hundred people in a single day, and will send them all out of the country as fast as they can without any chance to defend themselves or prove they belong here.
They knew what would happen when they raided a city and rounded up people by the truckload. They knew it would spark protests, and in less than two days of unrest and zero dead anyone they're already sending in thousands of National Guard and talking about deploying the fucking Marines on US soil.
They wanted this violence, and they're making it happen. This won't just be in San Diego. This won't just be protests. There will be blood. Don't let them win.
Protesters already have been getting injured to the point of hospitalizations.
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Hey national guard members, get the fuck out of the way or get steamrolled. You’re not heroes.