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Governor Newsome should release a statement that he and his cabinet will be discussing the effects of a possible change in State structure. If the world's 4th largest economy were to secede from the Union, frumpy would be screwed.
Just wondering: if California just stopped paying federal taxes would the net effect be the same? That way they haven't gone through the process of seceding, but at the same time they are refusing to entirely be part of the union.
Also, it was the conservatives who helped weaken unions by making dues optional but forcing the union to represent non-payers anyways. Sounds perfect here. California can just stop paying, but get the protection and benefits of a tax paying state.
Plus, conservatives would absolutely fucking love this if it was Texas threatening not to pay taxes if their money goes to doctors who preform abortions or some other equally absurd shit.
Since we have allowed the Presidency to become a joke why not our whole nation. /S
Noem tried to peddle habeas corpus, a legal principle with centuries of legal tradition, as Trump's right to do whatever he wants. Of course they would sell what's going on in LA as whatever fits their agenda.
According to trump anyone that uses more than 0% of their brain and anything about a 3 letter word is in rebellion of him.
This is another step in Project 2025
Provoke outrage with the mass deportations, then use that outrage to justify marshal law and deploying the military.
I’ve been talking about this for a decade now and a lot of people accused me of being a conspiracy theorist.
Time is a flat circle that only consists of about 100 years. Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it (or rhyme, whatever) and those that do learn from history are doomed to watch everyone else repeat it.
(martial)
I don't care, I am tired of fighting my autocorrect on every 3rd word.
Fair enough 😀
A step up from sheriff law? I'm not familiar with US legalese.
Sheriff don't like it Rock the casbah
Damn, Marshall law is on trump's side now?
What are we doing, folks?
They should be. Meanwhile, the governor, while criticizing Trump, was still whitewashing him when he said he would be willing to work with him. That's the thing, fascist dictators will fabricate if they are not able to force a situation, and sometimes that's to handle the situation before it ever gets a chance to materialize. Look at Erdogan and the failed 2016 military coup that basically disarmed any further attempts against him. Trump wants to prevent and punish rebellion because he knows that where he is going to bring the United States is going to instill a lot of it.
States do need to secede, the US is no longer operating within the constitution, it is their only out, and Trump is going to do everything to prevent it. The problem is, a lot of states should be coordinating together on this and falling back to Articles of Confederation between them to retain their autonomy and prevent the subverted military agencies from invading them. It really requires a mindset to resist forcefully if necessary while people are still getting brainwashed through their social network bubbles and the militarized occupation forces are already present. The constitution is no longer in effect, all branches of government are now irrevocably corrupt, and Trump is crowning himself not as a modern king but as the type of king the thirteen colonies rebelled against.
Using military on your own citizens… hmmm where have I heard about this before?
Oh. Last term. Immediately. He deployed the national guard on pipeline protesters, remember?
🇨🇳 Tiananem 2
The government is at war with the Constitution and the rule of law.
Trump is the only traitor in this picture.
So they fucking should be.
STaTeS rIgHtS
The biggest national security threats are Trump, the Heritage Foundation, MAGA, and Musk
Not only to the nation, The entire world, Humanity, literally anything that is alive.
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?!?! I agree with every single comment criticizing the current shitty US leadership.
I'm just waiting for the west coast to break off and do it's own thing
Imagine California, Oregon, and Washington form a pact, with the Rockies giving them a natural protective barrier. Then they form an alliance with Canada and Mexico, and surround 2/3 of the United States with hostile powers, who also control ALL shipping into the West Coast. If MAGA America wants their goods from Asia, they'll have to pay California's tariffs on EVERYTHING.
Or, they could route everything through the Panama Canal, with all the extra costs associated with that. Perhaps CA/OR/WA can form an alliance with Panama, and close it to MAGA America shipping.
Probably most places Colorado and wester tbh
That's honestly the best case scenario. As unlikely as it is.
This country is too big. Too corrupt. And far too corrupted to fix. To begin to fix this country we have to get both houses of congress and the president to overturn Citizens United. Now how many of those people do you think are going to vote to make the bribes being paid to them illegal?
Now if for whatever reason the US was to balkanize. To break up into smaller "nation states". That would make real change a whole lot more viable.
the best case scenario is the one putin wants? how about we get our shit together, purge the fucking conservatives, and live happily ever after?
This point is often dismissed but the United States really does need "a divorce". At least a return to pre-civil war state sovereignty where incompatible ideologies can each find their home.
I guess... Except I would not be able to accept another state just immediately resuming slavery or other terrible shit lol
I don't want a soft landing. I want it to crash and burn so hard that the very idea of preserving any part of it is anathema. I want all the corrupt power structures that ruined us to be actively eliminated. Leave the failed experiment where it belongs. In the history books. Learn the lessons of its fall. Make something better. Which is an exceptionally low bar.
It really isn't hard. Put the welfare of the mass of the people first and foremost. "Mass" meaning the whole. All the people. Otherwise what's the point of a government at all? Don't recreate a society of slaves that serves a tiny fraction of a tiny fraction of the most wealthy parasites. Value human life beyond its utility to an oligarchy. Set a floor on standard of life. A base level that people can't fall below and can build off of. Or not. If they want to just live their life let them.
Wait, your flair says you're a bot?
What? How the fuck did I get flagged as a bot?
Edit - Whoops. I did that. Yesterday evening. Ticked the box in settings.
LOL
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Is there a good argument for why any society not in collapse should submit to any "higher" authority?
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