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That's a literal death threat. Fuck that guy. Maybe he'd like to experience the same next time he votes against a Democrat? Or maybe, we just don't do political assassinations.
Nah, this type of cretin deserves only what they salivate over dolling on others. He deserves it. Completely. Literal psychopath throwing threats.
I'm going to paste in part of my comment on another thread:
Something important to know about the two people who were shot: until her death, Melissa Hortman was a member of the Minnesota State House of Representatives; and John Hoffman is a member of the Minnesota State Senate. Both were Democrats.
And up until they were shot, the Minnesota House had 134 Members: 66 Republicans vs 67 Democrats (with one seat empty to be filled later). And the Minnesota Senate had 67 members: 33 Republicans and 34 Democrats. If the assassinations had both been successful, both chambers would have been tied. As it is, they're only saying that Hoffman is "stable", but there are no further details.
Is it not in the US that the house is seen as full of seats and these are tied to a party? Surely it's not that they're tied to a person, lest a drunk driver could shift the entire political landscape. I imagine the party refills the seat.
They are tied to the person, not party.
To add to what the others said; it depends on the state but typically in this situation it would be up to the governor to appoint a replacement. Whether or not that person has to be from the same party, serves the rest of the term or is just temporary, or if there needs to be a special election will also vary by state as well.
I imagine the party refills the seat
Political parties do not have direct granted power or authority in any state or federal position. They are not officially part of the election process. They organize and group candidates, and spend millions on advertising but they aren't directly granted any power. States will run primary elections to assist parties in selecting a candidate to proceed to the general election, but the process the party uses is ultimately up to them for determining the name they want to submit for the general election. Neither of the current two major parties existed when the US was founded, and originally there were several others. The actual general election process doesn't care about parties at all. Our system has inevitably devolved into the two party system we have now because of the Electoral College process.
In most States, replacing a State legislator is done via a Special Election, and stays vacant until then. A quick Google search seems to show that is the case for Minnesota. So if that district doesn't solidly vote D, it will be up for grabs. On this current political climate right now, I'm not sure that it would shift R.
On the federal level the State Governor would appoint someone to the Congress/Senate until the next election. Depending on the State laws, because States control their own election process, they may not be required by law to appoint someone from the same party.
In a deeply divided political climate like this, forcing both the legislature and Senate into a tie can effectively shutdown the government. Which is great for a party with a goal of trying to obstruct any progress.
The brownshirts are being activated. They’ll inspire more domestic terrorism, and they’ll stop facing any consequences. It’s a speedrun to fascism.
After today's protests, they will be pressing the pedal harder. Do NOT give in! We fight back.
It is called stochastic terrorism and this shitbag should be locked up
I'm no lawyer, but I feel like this statement is really toeing the first amendment line https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seditious_libel#Seditious_speech_in_the_United_States
As Dennis would say
They are referencing two murders and two attempted already and stating there will be more, this is far beyond that line
Oh, great. Yes, it's a real Tweet.
And also tries to use an (AI-generated?) prompt answer in an attempt to call dissenting commenters an ablist slur and prove that he definitely didn't make any threats of violence with his statement clearly implying that people who voted against his party of choice have their "li[ves] at stake".
https://xcancel.com/AlecLace/status/1933983687864913980#m
Real fucking class act this fascist shitheel is.
So this is actually him implying that Tim Walz ordered the assassination because Melissa Hortman voted against healthcare for undocumented migrants. Not the threat that it sounds like without context, but orders of magnitude more stupid. These people live in an entirely different reality.
we protest peacefully
they murder us
i am not hopeful.
Peaceful protests work. Plenty of people protesting today cited that their main motivation was violence against peaceful protesters. People do not like that, and this injustice tends to form a greater coalition.
Just have to keep in mind what we are dealing with.
We cannot let the Republican party stand after the dusts settles. It is tainted, planted over the bones of white supremacy and watered with hate.
Force them to set down new grassroots by banning every Republican politician from office that manages to escape prison.
today on sesame street: gang wars edition, we're going to learn about power vacuums!
if you have a large population that supports a particular group or person and get rid of that group or person, a vacuum will form that sucks all that support with new hostility into a new group or person, usually they are worse than the original.
the best way to combat this is to replace existing leadership with leaders who are sympathetic to your goals and will lead the vacant minded masses to the agreed upon goal.
the US has done this hundreds of times in history with great success.
the best way to combat this is to replace existing leadership with leaders who are sympathetic to your goals and will lead the vacant minded masses to the agreed upon goal.
That's what neocons were until the Tea Party purged them.
The problem is that the Democrat leadership wants the old GOP back so they can get back to ending history. We can't tolerate either party in their present forms.
Has trump pardoned this murderer yet?
State crimes cannot be pardoned.
A thing being illegal does not make it impossible.
I could say an enemy of the state cannot be elected (14th amendment), but here we are.
The difference between all the illegal shit that the administration has been doing and this is that the president kind of feasibly had power to order immediate action, so people obeyed, BUT he was also supposed obey the judiciary when it said he couldn't do that, and he didn't do that. They move fast so that when people call them on it, it's already done and they can say they can't do anything about it. NOT doing something is a lot easier to get away with than doing it. Pardoning a state crime would be a case where the action would be 100% clear to be illegal from the get-go, so doing it fast and then pretending to be suddenly helpless wouldn't work. He would actually need the entire system in that state to obey him over the law when they have no defense for doing so and no assurance that they'll be pardoned or rewarded at all. It might happen, but it's also not very feasible yet.
How come this one is a state crime, and Luigi is hemmed up in the feds?
So apparently this is in reply to another tweet of his where he accused it of possibly being a hit from Walz and that is you don't vote with Democrats, then Democrats will kill you. Still completely unhinged, but the context changes the meaning of this tweet.
The image comes from a reply in the reddit comments.
I may not have enough context on this guy and how he stands on stuff but, I usually read "per" as in "stated by" which would mean he is relaying that bit from Walz. And wouldn't make me worried this guy is backing the violence.
If if meant it as in Walz coordinated/hired the hit or something, then that is unhinged.
Fuck off, fascist!!! 🖕🤬🖕
Uh?????? What the actual fuck??? I guess throw it on the pile
Well murder goes both ways
The feeling is becoming mutual. If the GOP keeps it up, reprisals will happen.
So now they're being very open about it, Good. Document this so that they can't get away with it
Respond to violence with violence but this guy's post is just laughable
Okay, look at his tweet. He reposted a video of Hortmann talking after voting to repeal health care for "illegal" immigrants.
He then makes a connection to the shooter, who has been employed by Tim Walz. He is saying that Democrats killed Hortmann for not voting in line with "their beliefs".
Not how the grammar of this statement works but interesting cope with no link
So that leaves us with him being a moron that doesn't understand his first language or a concern troll.
I will never dispute that.
My only question is; Did they support the oIigarchy and/or fac!sm?
I haven't looked at recent numbers but Minnesota was leading in kidnappings by far.
That said, I know nothing about these two and it's possible this happened because they were the only ones resisting.
To be fair… I wouldn’t really shed a tear if some of them became messages to other republicans… so I guess that’s where the country stands right now.
Pro Life! Jesus Christ!