Given how this administration can't cover shit up to save their own asses, and given Trump's very negative perception by the public right now, if there was major evidence of widespread fraud someone would have come forward with it by now. Whether for the fame, the money, the book tours, or the warm fuzzy feeling of watching Trump's lackies go to prison. This was true when swiss-cheese-for-brains made his claims of election fraud in 2020, and it's still true now.
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Listen if it’s true, but the democrats are not willing to fight the results, then i don’t care. At that point the cheated election becomes legitimate. And Democratic leaders are on their non intervention kick, probably either because they are complicit, or want to really rub it in to the disenfranchised voters that It voters the blue no matter who, or else it gets the tyrant again.
There isn't a mechanism to recall the president over votes, and technically we didn't vote for anyone. The electoral college did that.
So for better or worse we are stuck with the current situation until their terms are up and are forced from office, or more direct action is taken.
What I hope happens is that steps are taken to prevent that in the future. As it benefits the party in power, it likely won't be fixed anytime soon.
Can't you guys do people power? Like what the Philippines did to oust the last dictator?
Sort of, but that requires our congress to get involved. Which currently mostly have a vested interest in not changing anything.
And were probably complicit in being installed by this regime. They will do nothing and allow this to continue because if they keep pulling this off, they can never be voted out.
Edit fuck you autocorrect, were is a word.
The Republicans cheated blatantly
Ignoring everything they probably did to voting machines that is currently being discussed in courts, we know for a fact that hundreds of democratic voting centers were called with bomb threats.
Current voting fraud court case https://www.newsweek.com/2024-election-lawsuit-advances-2083391
Report of known election interference from 2024 https://www.cip.uw.edu/2024/11/05/election-day-bomb-threats-tabulator-irregularities/
That alone probably fucked with tens to hundreds of thousands of votes.
If Kamala never conceded we would have something.
Regretfully, Kamala could have had 99.9999% of the votes ... but if she concedes the race to Trump he wins. There may be laws or legislation to punish or impeach Trump and the Republicans, and the government (led by Trump and the Republicans) could choose to pursue them ... I somehow doubt they will.
I don't think it works like that. We had a guy in my state who tried to drop out of a race after he was already on the ballot. He told the media he dropped out, didn't want the office, etc. When he won he changed his mind and they swore him in.
It does not legally work like that ... but it does work like that. Conceding is a tradition/courtesy, but it would be seen as an admission of losing by Republicans.
The Republicans took office. They would be the ones to take any action against Trump and Musk for cheating.
How are we still in denial? Do we not see what our countrymen have become?
Some academic researchers told Kamala ahead of time and she ignored it and did no investigations after. This alone says a lot.
Too busy blaming the leftists for not liking genocide
Enough of that. Let's get back to the real business... Fundraising!
Reads like conspiracy nonsense. Bring receipts.
I'm with you man. I mean something weird is up with Rockland County for sure, there is some fraud happening. And not saying that this method is not plausible but it's a theory at best and yeah article reads like some pepe sylvia conspiracy. We need legit cybersecurity specialist to do some forensics on the Rockland machines before we can get a root cause and analyze potential impact.
Yeah, there could well be some shenanigans, but as you say we need actual experts doing actual analysis. Spreading wild conspiracy theories does nothing to help anyone.
Did you read the article? Relevant section below:
“Let’s be clear, Palantir wasn’t brought in for customer service. It was brought in to do what it does best: manage, shape, and secure vast streams of data—quietly. According to Eaton’s own release, Palantir’s role would include: AI-driven oversight of connected infrastructures Automated analysis of large datasets And—most critically—“secure erasure of digital footprints”
The Digital Janitor:also known as forensic sanitization, it was now being embedded into Eaton-managed hardware connected directly to voting systems. Palantir didn’t change the votes. It helped ensure you’d never prove it if someone else did.”
Right, do you see how this reads like conspiracy nonsense.
We make a claim, claim inherently says there's no way to prove it, so just trust us.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
The article fails to explain how the UPS was connected to the server, or if they were at all. Most use USB and there is no indication that even if some elaborate thing to connect to a battery backup over starlink was used, you still have to break out of the HID in Windows, gain kernel level access, then modify machines, some of which are airgapped, and the databases in a way that not only hides external reporting as they alleged with Palantir, but also removes any records of the database transactions being modified. Maybe you could have a USBHID zero day that lets the battery backup escape mitigations built in like Data Execution Prevention in Windows, then you have a second zero day that lets you modify SQLite where the tabulations were kept, and somehow all of this was coordinated remotely. Who knows, maybe the battery backups have a network connection on them meant to prevent electrical surges, and can operate as a man in the middle for any network traffic passing to the internet or other local servers. Even better, they were able to connect to a Tripp Lite device over StarLink, which acted as a man in the middle attack while protecting the network connection from a power surge, and then this was used to interface with the Intel Management Engine or another BIOS level attack, and they got in that way.
So many options, and people can speculate all day. Proof is necessary and the voting machines and Tripp Lite devices are all still available to be audited. It's important to remember that there are powerful forces inside the U.S. and other countries that want to move people away from Democracy and voting. The best way to do this is to have a repeat of the election denial from the right to now be on the left. If that becomes standard behavior then it's game over for Democracy in the U.S.
Seriously. I’ve had discussions with people since the election about how they say it was stolen. Until there’s hard receipts, then it’s not even worth the time considering it to me.
At the very least they intentionally weaponized voting laws to get people kicked off the voting pool resulting it likely uncounted ballots.
I mean that's the issue, that's also why this case that's going on is so huge. There's so many statistical anomalies that it's nearly impossible that he won every battleground state.....but there's been no smoking gun. There's never been solid enough evidence to warrant a court case. Hopefully we get the 'hard receipts' your looking for in this court case
Also, it’s kinda fucking hard to get the receipts when a bunch of election officials were very possibly in on it. And the secretaries of state for said swing states might not be doing everything on the up-and-up (see: literally everything about how Brian Kemp - the current Governor of Georgia - orchestrated his own election).
This is BlueAnon shit.
ITT: ChatGPT tells us only Republicans are allowed to question the legitimacy of elections
Everyone's allowed to question the legitimacy. After 60 completed cases or so, let's reconvene.