No Stupid Questions

The correct response is to consider what the correct way to synthesize the positions is, and go with that. There's nothing wrong with adapting your position to handle possible inconsistencies. The goal is not to win but to be the most correct.

Typically, the assumption is that this is an argument that transgender is invalid. Perhaps there's another way of looking at it. Perhaps a way people aren't ready for, which is why your opponent went in that direction.

Alternatively, it can be pointed out that this is changing the topic, because it technically is.

I genuinely don't know enough about what people who claim to be trans racial are even saying and why they're saying it to form an opinion on it. My gut feeling is that it isn't valid and they're bad actors, but my gut has been wrong before.

So if someone told me "trans racial is just as valid as trans gender" I'd either not respond or just say "I don't know about that." and leave it at that.

Gentle reminder that if you believe someone is a bad actor and using dog whistles there isn't a point in responding to things like this because you aren't going to change their mind.

No race, no gender. No problems.

Gender anarchism and race anarchism. People be just people. Social constructs shall not be a dividing reason, let everyone behave however the hell they want as long as they don't hurt others and be happy.

Also US race concepts are kind of weird in general. I suppose the history of slavery and segregation did a number on people's perception of race.

"Shut up."

The best way is asking: what's your point? Is it that transgender shouldn't be accepted or that transrace should?. And proceed from there to either defend transgenderism or criticize transracism accordingly.

First let me start by saying I strongly dislike the race therminology, but I'll use it here for consistency, although normally I would call it ethnicity.

The difference between those lies in that gender is a social construct, and race is not. Race has some biological meaning, just like sex, people can't change their sex (yet), they can't change their race (yet).

Gender is a social construct, it's things that have nothing to do with biology but that we as a society attribute in general to a specific sex. A similar concept for race would be culture, a person can be of the sex male but prefer to wear clothes usually associated with female sex, just like someone can be of the white ethnicity but prefer to hear music usually associated with black ethnicity. I wouldn't call Eminem or Michael Jackson transrace, what would that even mean?

Does it really matter if someone is either

Depends if I have time and I want entertainment at that moment, I know they are trolling and don't care and usually people just want to get me angry at them so I calmly responded to everything they say as it's a real legitimate question, treat every question as if there truly caring about it. Most people will just back off after a bit because they can't get me all angry and pissed off. It's quite entertaining watching them get angry and wound up because I was trying to answer them honestly and nice way. Doesn't always work but it's just something I do I learned really pisses off those kinda people

Block them.

The best way to respond is to disregard them, block and move on. Transracial is an actual thing, but it refers to people of one race adopted by another. Transracial ala Dolezal is just a troll to attack trans people, no different from attack helicopters.

Transracial doesn't exist because "Race" in the context that they want to use it doesn't exist.

Genetically there's only one "race"; that's the human race. If they want to identify as a different culture, it's purely a cosmetic cultural thing, not biological or genetic. Whereas as being Transgender is biological. Therefore, you can safely tell people like Rachel Dolezal to fuck off and go back to fifth period science class.

"You are wrong. Gender and race are two different things. Transgender people have been around since time began, transracial was invented few years ago to appropriate and diminish transgender people's experiences. it's not transphobic to be against something that was recently invented to invalidate transgender people. ciao"

but tbf it seems like that person's tryna start shit so I'd just block and report em

It's nonsense because race is a social construct.

Sounds like someone just looking to pick a fight. Disengage.

That said, I reckon as long as they're not hurting anyone, people can be whatever they like. Mind your own business. It's a slippery slope to start considering whether a fellow human is 'valid' or not.

someone said that in a thread on lemmy early, i cringed. it seems the only people that think transracial is a thing is primarly done by white people. i wonder if thats the same person were talking about.

and yes i was thinking about rachel dolzal. or white people claiming they are native american, because they have less than 1-5% of thier dna, your still a white asf guy. and a white guy pretending that he is filipino, because he drives a tuk tuk.

Is there something like "trans smart"?

Transgender is more comparable to Naturalization.

You can become an American, British, Canadian, German, Japanese, or Chinese, in terms of Citizenship/Nationality, but you can't just magically change from White to Black or to Asian, or vice versa.

They don't appear to understand the difference between cultural and gender identity. I'd try this:
"If a white person of european descent were raised from birth by a Sentinel Island tribe, would they be culturally european?"
The answer is obviously no, illustrating that the cultural identity of a person depends on the culture the person was raised in. I don't know how gender identity works, but clearly how someone is raised has little to do with it.
Edit: Disclaimer that I have absolutely no idea what I am talking about.

The differences between the sexes is much less than people like to pretend. Every cell in your body has different modes it can operate in. Many, perhaps most, cells have estrogen-dominated and testosterone-dominated modes. If you change the dominant hormones in the body, every cell in the body switches between these modes. Trans people who medically transition are simply taking advantage of the body's existing mechanism of secondary sex characteristics.

Ultimately, any person could have a male- or female- typical phenotype. If you put the right hormone injections into a fetus at the right time of pregnancy, an XY fetus would be born with a vagina and a uterus. And the opposite is true as well. These conditions sometimes happen naturally with intersex conditions. Every human body has the potential to develop along a male- or female-typical path. It's just a matter of what hormones are passing through the body at what stage of development.

But race? There's no comparison. Cells don't have different expression modes that correspond to different racial phenotypes. There are no "black hormones" that a white person could take to gain many of the characteristics of black bodies. There is simply no equivalent to the medical transition process many trans people undergo. There is simply no equivalent to the fundamental rewiring of the body that occurs on a cellular level with trans medical treatments.

Just don't have conversation about this stuff at all. You can rarely change a person's mind.

I used to try talking about politics and things in my rural town but it's pointless. In America it's more like a drug people use, they like the rush they get from the drama. And most the time no one is saying anything original, it's like they just spout off market sound bites. The conversation will always go nowhere.

It might sound counter productive to not fight for something like that. But just live your life, and understand life and humanity is chaos, to try to change people is like trying turn the sun into an icecube. You can't fuck with the universe.

Dont waste time on that stuff, and instead be the best person you can be and be a good role model to your immediate circle. Thats worth more to the community and will spread naturally without trying.

Why not ask more questions about it? And if they insist it does no damage, it wouldn't matter either way