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The home, which was run by an order of Catholic nuns and closed in 1961, was one of many such institutions that housed tens of thousands of orphans and unmarried pregnant women who were forced to give up their children throughout much of the 20th century.

In 2014, historian Catherine Corless tracked down death certificates for nearly 800 children who died at the home in Tuam between the 1920s and 1961 — but could only find a burial record for one child.

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago

My brain took a moment to register the word infant. As in the child was already born.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Satanic Panic was projection.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 11 hours ago

It's always projection

[–] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If we do shit like this, imagine what they could do!

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, and the irony is that in the Bible, Lucifer never even asked for an animal or human sacrifice, but god did.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 15 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This is probably from poor medical care.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

no this is post-birth abortion… aka murder….

[–] morphballganon@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Not really abortion if it's post-birth, is it? Once they're born, if you kill them, that's simply murder. The line is drawn at birth. Otherwise, where do you draw the line? "Billy was killed at age 13 months and Tommy was killed at age 11 months. Thus Billy was murdered and Tommy was post-birth aborted..." No. They're both murdered.

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[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 7 hours ago

No it's not. Most of the infants died from bacterial or viral infections.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Looks like all the kids died of disease? Definitely evidence that the world has gotten better not worse.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Well, some things. Science and medicine are two of the things that I count as consistently bettering our lives.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

Don't jinx it, the antivax crowd certainly is growing. And then there is Maha.

[–] javiwhite@feddit.uk 74 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Religion has historically provided a safe haven to the sick and twisted among society, where they're allowed to act with impunity due to their perceived status.

That's not directly due to the religion; but rather due to the societal pedestal being devout seems to put people on; "a holy person could never do that to a child" etc...

The reality is, other areas that benefit from this sort of status too find themselves riddled with bad actors... Just look through charity organisations and I can guarantee you'll be combing over a sea of sociopaths buying themselves good credit with public opinion rather than people looking to make a difference because they want to (not to say these people don't exist; they just don't end up running the show normally)

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[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 224 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I'm old enough to remember everyone getting all bent out of shape by Sinead O'Connor ripping up a picture of the Pope.

She was a couple of years early, but right.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 77 points 1 day ago (9 children)

To the "religion is what makes us civil" crowd, fuck off all the way to whatever hell you believe in or just the sun.

Disclaimer: This is not a call for violence.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 9 points 22 hours ago

Understood, I will go and punch a nun.

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[–] altphoto 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I feel like maybe only people who have vaginas and can get pregnant should have a say in the whole abortion rights issue. So I'll step aside and just mention that my drainage system has zero bodies in it. So you know, like most normal people should probably have more voice than the Catholic church with rapist priests and 800 abortion bodies in their drain pipes. But yes, we should all be allowed to present evidence :).

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Just a note infant <> aborted....these were likely babies born and died of disease and preventable causes.

So much to hate about this situation; but I don't think abortion debate is relevant here.

[–] altphoto 2 points 15 hours ago

Yeah it was a gut feel...then read the comment.... Even much worse.

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago (21 children)

Playing devil's advocate here, could it be that they ran something like a baby euthanasia outfit? like, no contraceptives back then, extreme social stigma surrounding birth out of wedlock, poverty forcing women to give up their newborns, giving them up to the nunnery, which had no resources to deal with feeding caring and raising thousands upon thousands of children, and so either A) simply took it upon themselves to take the logical step and cull some of them, or B) that a high number of babies died of natural causes (neglect, malnutrition, sudden infant death syndrome, disease, whatever) and they simply disposed of them.

I don't know what else could explain this, it's not like we're seriously talking about gangs of murderous baby killing nuns roaming the streets at night and snatching up babies by the hundreds for lust murders, right?

As far as I'm concerned, the only crime here is the institutionalized psychopathy of a religious patriarchal system that refused to take responsibility for giving people a legal and moral avenue to raise children that were brought into life in violation of religious law.

Makes more sense to me at least, I may be fuck way off wrong.

[–] wastelandpilot@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah to me it sounds like the babies died of such causes and weren't intentionally killed. I can imagine that trying to get rid of the bodies in other ways (burial, cremation, dumping elsewhere) would make the many deaths too visible or obvious, and would lead to questioning. But they could be hidden in the sewage.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck no.

You have a bad situation where babies are dying - a lot of babies - you don't hide it. You scream for help.

You dump murder victims

[–] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That's not how shame based religions work though

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[–] hig13@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago

My ¢2, devil's advocate, maybe they were trying to protect the women from emotional trauma, they'd still have some but, maybe an attempt to reduce it. Obviously they could have done different things to do that better, but, maybe it was what they thought was their only option. New Mom's baby dies, instead of telling her that her child is dead, they hide it and tell her that it was adopted or transferred somewhere it would be taken care of or whatever.

It's far fetched, probably unlikely, but hey, devil's advocate, it's a possibility.

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Every time I run into a pro lifer, I tell them about what happened in Ireland.

Most of them ignore me, some say it's worth it.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 12 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 137 points 1 day ago (55 children)

Religion is fucked up.

Don’t trust any religious people.

They’re all sick in the head.

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[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 50 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My dad recent got a decent payout for being the internationally trafficked childhood victim of one of these unwed mother homes…

Not worth his lifetime of trauma, nor the issues that came with being sold at age 4 to a “keeping up appearances” family that sent him away to boarding school on top of everything..

But it’s something.. he’s mid 70s, so you know, totally enough time to use the money.

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