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I don't look XYZ and/or sometimes I can pass as white so I don't know if I can post here. Can I?
This place is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This includes those of mixed heritage and those who may be "white" but are of an ethnicity that is a minority in their area (i.e. Kurds, etc) If you've experienced oppression due to your identity that is not based on sexual / gender identification, you are welcome here.
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Hello nerds, hope you all have a good next week 
Remember no crackers
The thing about U.S. media dominance is that you can't escape its ideas even in places you consider to be apolitical or safe, I just saw a kitty page that I follow make a joke about the U.S. bombing Iran.
Its disturbing how gleefully sadistic they get too. You don't go to far before you get people saying nuke a country
An insta post from Bobby Vylan of "Death to the IDF" fame
Chad
A friend of a friend who is a "pillar of the local queer community" calling me a dangerous Tankie that people shouldn't associate with. lol 😂
"DUDE ARE YOU SERIOUSLY DEFENDING THE BARBARIAN SAVAGES OF AFRICA? THEY EAT HUMANS DUDE, I HAVE A COUSIN THERE AND THEY PUT HIM IN A BIG POT AND ATE HIM, CAN'T BELIEVE YOU LEFTISTS WILL SUPPORT EVEN BARBARIC CANNIBAL REGIMES IF IT MEANT IT'S AGAINST THE EMPIRE" - British man in the 1800s who I depict as the wojak.
The current struggle sess on twitter about wages in the imperial core showed the chauvinism of quite a few "leftists", god forbid someone mentions that there is other ways to empowers the workers in the imperial core than just rising the minimun wage
You'd think that people would see that given how expensive it is to survive even in places that have raised the minimum wage. Like, yes its an important fight, but in the end its an extremely small part of a much larger class struggle. Its the same with free Healthcare. A lot of" leftists" trip over themselves to support any run of the mill socdem imperialist as soon as they say the support it.
I had to question my own politics because it seems so obvious that raising wage is no end goal for anybody. My salary basically doubled in the past 5 years, you know what else did ? My rent. I would gladly take half of my salary if it meant I had little to no rent.
I'm glad the left is starting to talk policy now in lieu of catchy slogans though.
Absurd question but I just realized I have no idea how do I make other bipoc friends? Because almost all my friends are white and there's things they don't get. I live in a very white place but it's a city and there's tons of normal (non-cracker) people around, but a lot of them seem siloed in their own communities. I've never felt like I could go to cultural events for my ethnic group and don't even know if there are any here because my parents are pretty assimilationist, I don't speak the language, I don't have a shared cultural background because I was raised very American.
A crime by colonizers, next to taking natural resources and the massacres they've done, is fighting intellectualism in its subjects... This is me ranting about my people not reading an article past a headline.
I really don’t care what is happening in New York. And i especially don’t care if this person is “Muslim” who will work under the chains of the liberal bourgeois state. If all you need is some left-facing slogans to vote than I don’t know what to say.
Can’t wait for my country to get indebted to Wall Street banks and get “structurally adjusted” - but atleast the banks are under a city with a “Muslim” governor! All is well. - Felt the same when Sadiq Khan become London’s mayor.
and before anyone says why I have “Muslim” in quotes, I take the opinion of Houria Bouteldja of what it means to be a Muslim in the West:
spoiler so it doesnt take the whole chat
One of God’s names is “a l-‘Adl,” which means “The Just.” The idea that my father, Allah yrahmou, transmitted to me is that Islam is fundamentally an ideal of justice. So, to the question “Can one be Muslim in the West?” his answer (as well as mine) would have been a provocative “No.” The presentation I will make here is not that of an Islamic scholar, as I have neither the qualification for it nor the pretension to it. Instead, I would like to offer an analytical framework for understanding the interactions between the fact of being and calling oneself Muslim and the fact of being involved in politics. Wal-‘Ilmou lillâh.
If Islam is really this ideal of radical justice, then our presence as Muslims in the heart of the imperial city, in the heart of injustice, is problematic. In this context, perhaps we would have more humility if we saw ourselves as becoming Muslims.
Some of you may dismiss that statement since, at the individual level, you respect the teachings of the sacred book, the five pillars of Islam, the Sunnah and the great principles. These are indeed the bases of Islamic practice and they are fundamental to whomever aspires to belong to the Ummah el Islamiya. But I contend that there is a profound contradiction between the ideal of justice advocated by Islam and the material gains that we have achieved by living, to a great extent, off of spoliation of the South (in the form of wages, social redistribution or political rights). We are certainly not the main beneficiaries of North/South domination (the bourgeoisie is), and we are not even secondary beneficiaries (the white working classes are). We are the unwanted and collateral beneficiaries of this system but we still benefit, even while remaining in the margins.
When I say “we,” I mean this intermediate category between Whites and people of the Third World, that is, postcolonial subjects living in the West. Ancestors of colonized people and victims of structural racism in the North, they are despised, relegated, discriminated against but their burden is lessened, relatively speaking, because they enjoy the social, economic and political rights of liberal democracies. So I speak of “aristocratic indigenous people” not unlike those in white left movements who speak of “aristocratic laborers.” The first thing to do in order not to escape one’s conscience is to face reality in all its ugliness. And the first ugliness of this system is that none of us is innocent. But we are not guilty either because the world in which we live is a system that precedes us and will probably survive after us. We are not guilty, but we are responsible. We are responsible as human beings, we are responsible as third-people living in the North, and we are responsible as “potential” Muslims. In my view, it is based on this awareness and this objective situation in conflict with the Islamic principle of justice that we must forge politics. Here, I would like to introduce a distinction between social and political Muslims. The first are, in a large sense, cultural Muslims (they inherited Islamic culture because they were born in an Islamic environment—they practice or not or are converts) while the second are those who, in addition to having faith, are aware of their responsibility in a structurally unjust world. It is this second category that is the focus of my interest in this paper.
I’m not here to have a debate (because my mind is already made up), but i am just airing it out at the void really.
"We are certainly not the main beneficiaries of North/South domination (the bourgeoisie is), and we are not even secondary beneficiaries (the white working classes are). We are the unwanted and collateral beneficiaries of this system but we still benefit, even while remaining in the margins." This hits hard
I'm at a point where I don't bother with internet arguments especially over one's basic humanity. I just want to beat mfs to an within an inch of their life. You don't see lions argue with their prey so why bother? I'm wasting my time. Dudes arguing points that lead to ethnic cleansing and I'm no gonna be thinking about a witty reddit retort because if this were face to face most people avert their eyes to people like me for a good reason.
Yeah
If politics deals with people's lives, why wouldn't we settle it out with people's lives?
i wish upon people what they wish upon for others. You don’t think trans people deserve to live? Tough luck buddy i hope you fucking die before i ever try to convince you of someone’s basic human rights
I just don't have the energy to argue over stuff online. I had a lot more patience when I was 20, but now? I've seen everything liberals and other reactionaries have to say to the point I can type out their responses for them. I don't mind explaining stuff to people asking genuine questions.
I'm just not in the mood to argue over why higher minimum wage is a good thing. Or what taxes are. Or why abortion should be legal and widely accessible. I've had these conversations too many times, especially with the libertarians all over the place when Ron Paul was running.
Dudes like "oh so you don't like when your views are challenged" yeah I don't want to argue on whether my people deserved to be treated liked dirt. You've already lost and you know it. You have to look your child in the eyes everyday and justify these views to them subject them to living a life of fear that you lead. You lost and you drag everyone you love into a Maelstrom of hate and you normalize this poison. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy and you inflict this on your fam.
thank you Vegeta
@vegeta1@hexbear.net I remember one time as a small kid that I had a tantrum in a souk because my parents didn't want me to get a blanket of Vegeta screaming and instead bought me a blanket with rabbits on it.
They may have thought rabbits were safe but they aren't. I watched watership down and thats far more gully than anything I've ever done 
there are members of a DSA caucus that are legitimately mad at and talking about filing a grievance against another DSA member for calling them crackers on twitter. there's no joke I could make that's funnier then the situation itself
Nerds we are gonna get cancelled for saying the c-word 
Don't worry! If "cracker" isn't your pick, I got more for you to select from! Are you down with "honky"? What about "bleach demon"? Does "no-purpose flour" fit your vibe?
Should double-down with "Okay, cracker."
Radio DJ on a latino station straight up spreading anti-immigrant propaganda and then supposedly he opens up the phone line and he says "oh this isn't a debate, I just want to hear opinions" and then all the callers are just agreeing with him anyway. Fucking hate gusanos.
I don't care how good once upon a time in Hollywood may be.... That disrespect to bruce lee made me throw it in the bin. You know how many of us in Africa got inspired to do martial arts because of that man and how he resonated with a lot of us? Yeah tarantino was a fool for that one.
I recall Tarantino tried to also complain, and I'm paraphrasing, "Bruce Lee wanted to use real, hard force in his fighting moves against stuntmen, during choreographed fights" {note: this is typical in HK kung fu movie production, not limited to Bruce Lee}
Like what are :cracker: proving? That HK kung fu fighters and even their stuntmen are the real deal, when it comes to giving and taking blows to and from others?
Then tarantino says cliff would have killed bruce lee in a fight because hes a world war vet. Mate bruce lee was a competitive boxer and would have gone far. He's one of the most influential figures of mixed martial arts. Hell hes had legit fights with other martial artists that he's won like wong jack man. More white male fantasy shit. How many soldiers even really used close combat? There was that American dude in the North korean war but other than that? They're tough but their training is mostly split in weapons etc. See videos of navy seals sparring pros its embarrassing.
Hell look at jackie chan movies. Those hits were fuuuuucking hard. Like his fights against benny the jet urquidez that shit had nasty blows from the takes. The speed they went at was insane. Hollywood is not sniffing a lightyear of the atyleticism, coordination, speed of that kind not even with all the slow motion and camera cuts they use in movies. And before joining those stunt teams you had to be extremely proficient at martial arts.
Jackie Chan breaking his foot from that jump he did for Rumble in the Bronx is proof of his abilities. Not only did he make that jump, anyone else would have died even trying to do it. There's problems with actors doing there own stunts, but holy shit Jackie Chan does all his own stunts lmao
"Peace in the middle east" you say before I grab your ankle and twist behind your shoulder
This was asked before and I saved the link somewhere, but where can the Hexbear emoji database be downloaded for personal use on things like Signal?
I'm so Hexbear-poisoned I don't even think in normal emojis anymore, just want to spam :Mao-Shining: with my friends.
I can't get over that someone joked that I'm "Angel" when I sing my clean vocals but an alter-ego of mine named "Demon" comes out when I sing my unclean vocals.
Goofy!
"Hey this term has racist origins, despite it being an acceptable term within the white power structure. Maybe as leftists, we shouldn't use it and instead take the time to write out or say the definition without using the term itself?"
"Yeah but it's the accepted term and it means the same as the definition."
"But the term itself is harmful and othering. Here's a list of reasons why, along with examples of similar terms that used to be acceptable: "
"I don't see the point."
What the fuck is it with white 'leftists' not wanting to learn things or change their views based on material consequences?
education is a frustrating matter, I want to shove book into people's faces until they read, like damn you read about how your people got colonized ffs
Us Black people rock
especially you
this is about your music
same response still
Anyone ever have white women saying that they struggle more than male poc’s? I’ve been hearing this more from white Guatemalans. They claim that they face more racism for having blonde hair and blue eyes. That nonwhite men have an advantage over them because we don’t face sexism like they do.
Guatemala does have a pretty bad sexism issue but white Guatemalans pretty much own the finance industry in Guatemala and you’ll find the whitest men and women at the executive levels while brown people are hired cleaners.
White women having this energy of not actually opposing oppression but rather opposing being a victim of oppression happens to be one of the most common criticisms they get from POC, and that includes WOC. This is most white women I've interacted with, and that includes the ones I've dated.
White women tend to prefer having both white supremacy and patriarchy in place rather than having neither. They'd rather face oppression under white men, just so that they can oppress POC, than be free with WOC.
In fact, I find that, in general, white people who have some sort of marginalized identity (white women, yes, but also white queers and even white ND people) love to exploit the shit out of that marginalized identity to avoid accountability. The number of times I've seen white women have a #notallwhitewomen moment just because a Black woman demands basic respect from them + the number of times I've seen a white queer unabashedly pinkwashing racism is far too much.
Intersectionality in the minds of these people is the exception, not the rule.
I just got in an argument with my mom today (she's white, I'm mixed-race Filipino + white) over the Supreme Court case. She doesn't think I'm at risk of deportation. Flips will eventually be on the chopping block as Whitey moves down the list of minorities since deportations won't actually solve any problems (often making them worse, in fact). I tried explaining to her people with birthright citizenship have already been deported. Laws and rules don't matter because if they did, every white person would be deported back to Europe. We all know that's never going to happen.
The topic of my dad's side of the family living in the US came up. His first ex-wife is here, along with a few of my oldest siblings. I pointed out they're all at a serious risk of deportation, which means I'll be responsible for my niece and nephew. Again, more denial and deflection. Then the mask slipped.
"[Your dad's ex-wife] may be a necessary sacrifice and it makes sense."
I managed to not throw my dinner plate at her face and stayed calm with "There shouldn't be any 'sacrifices' at all." She then got real quiet and is now throwing a temper tantrum because she showed her whole ass, knows she got caught, and wishes I'd be a good little removed who agrees with her it's not our problem.
I am so fucking ready to be done with this side of my family. If I wasn't disabled and reliant on them for help, I would have fucked off by now. It's really shitty to say, but I can't wait until she finally fucking croaks, I get an inheritance, sell the house, and leave. She should fucking know better, being a woman who had to deal with sexual harassment and not being allowed to have her own bank account for the first twenty-something years of her life. But no. Fuck everyone else, she just wants to have what's hers while reactionaries go to town on the rest of us. She thinks white privilege applies to me and that I should take advantage of it.
These last few years have made me rethink everything I thought I knew about my family's history. My mom's mom was genuinely one of the worst people I've ever met, another white woman born into a world where she couldn't even vote, yet was horrifically racist, misogynistic, and antisemitic. I thought for most of my life, my mom had managed to lose these beliefs inflicted on her by her mother. Nope! It's all crackkkers all the way down.
Sorry for ranting. It's just so incredibly frustrating hearing people from other marginalized groups reinforce and simultaneously downplay white supremacy.
