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How many licks would it take? Can the iron in bars even be processed by the body? Can you do this for other minerals?

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[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Some kind of iron piece is given in some African countries to fight iron deficiency by putting it in the food while it's cooking, so it works.

[–] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Not necessarily licking (I mean, if you do it enough...), but this is a thing

Cool story with interesting social, cultural, and scientific interactions.

It may have been discredited outside of simple iron deficiency since I last read about it, but dietary studies on humans are notoriously difficult to do.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe cooking in cast iron pots/pans also provides a source of iron as well.

[–] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Certainly makes sense.

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (14 children)

We used one of these with our daughter when she had a concerning iron deficiency. I'm not super sure if it helped since we also started feeding her more iron containing foods, but it didn't hurt 🤷‍♂️

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[–] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A little cat iron puck was introduced in an Asian region with high iron-deficiecy in the poorer population, but nobody used it. So they did some research and changed it to resemble a fish instead and it took right off. Turns out the local culture considered fish lucky or something.

[–] quickhatch@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

I actually teach my students about this strategy that the WHO employee in Micronesia in my sport nutrition class. It's less about the iron fish, and more about that dietary iron can come from cast iron cooking sources instead of supplementation (as the latter often causes digestive distress).

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[–] ALilOff@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I had a bowl of nails this morning…without milk

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] Hupf@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is cursed and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[–] Aremel@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah, well I stubbed my toe last week while watering my spice garden, and I only cried for 20 minutes.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did you at least include the shrimp

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[–] Davel23@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I saw someone do a demonstration once, they took a box of "iron-fortified" breakfast cereal, dumped it into a bowl, then ran a magnet through it. The magnet picked up some of the dust from the bottom of the bowl, that dust being the tiny iron particles that were added to the cereal to "fortify" it.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

I'm not sure why you're putting those words in quotes as if they're incorrect.

[–] Davel23@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I put them in quotes as the word has no objective meaning as applied to a breakfast cereal, it's simply a marketing term. I did not intend to imply that ingested iron particles are not a valid source of iron for human biology.

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[–] smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And which is more bioavailable, metallic iron or iron oxide? Do we want to lick clean iron or rusty iron??

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can get all the iron you need from vegetables and certain meat or even taking supplements. There's no need to go about eating rusty metal. In fact, my doctor has advised me not to eat nails. I have to trust what he says, he's printed out several impressive medical degrees.

[–] wallybeavis@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

I assumed the doctor was printing out degrees for himself, not his patients... But sure, why not?

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One...

Two-hooo...

Uh-three- breaks beak on iron bar

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

US RDA age 19+ is 8 mg / day. Maybe if the iron bar is really rusty. Or, pills are cents a day. OR you could eat breakfast cereal or liver, lentils or spinach, Popeye.

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/iron-HealthProfessional/#h2

[–] Droechai@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Breakfast cereals made of liver and spinach feel like an unexplored market

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Licking a rusty bar seems like it would be a good way to abrade your tongue and contract tetanus.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Tetanus is a bacteria that lives in soil. It's only associated with rust because rust gives more surface area to allow dirt to accumulate on which bacteria can survive, and because iron objects are often sharp enough to pierce the skin. If you were cut with a gleaming razer that had just had soil smeared on it you'd have a good chance of contracting tetanus!

[–] monotremata@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

~~It's also because the bacterium in question is anaerobic, so it dies in an oxygen environment; rusting consumes oxygen, so it helps preserve the bacterium longer out of soil.~~

Edit: I had always been told this, but evidently it isn't true. The rust does not seem to have any effect on the bacterium that causes tetanus. Apologies for spreading misinformation.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'd be quite surprised if rusting could consume oxygen fast enough to make a difference there?

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does that mean I can get tetanus by walking around barefoot outside?

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If your feet get cut, sure. This is why tetanus vaccine is given as post-exposure prophylaxis in many places if you get a wound that breaks the skin.

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[–] MoodyRaincloud@feddit.nl 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've read once that eating iron won't do anything for your iron intake, but for example sticking some rusty nails through an apple for a while and then eating the apple would.

I think you'd lose just as much iron if not more iron in the blood you'd lose consuming that apple.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about sticking 5" iron nails into your nose?

Asking for a friend

[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They're about four inches too short, mate.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's hard to imagine there's no culture in the world that would've adopted this as a practice.

One suggestion in the old days was to stick a nail in an apple for a while and then eat it. The apple of course. Without the nail

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