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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] gazter@aussie.zone 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

But now it's late, faster.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

It's late, but earlier late!

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] voodoocode@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

Außer die Sitzplatz Reservierung funktioniert nicht

[–] excral@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

The problem for higher speeds aren't the trains but the rails. There are just a few tracks were the ICEs can even hit 300 km/h

So even if these speeds were practical during normal operation, we'd need significant investments into the track infrastructure first and right now we don't even get enough investments into the track infrastructure to fix the coverage and punctuality.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Meanwhile, Spain is constantly expanding the high speed network, second in the world after china, with excellent punctuality, and not fixating on speed records.

[–] Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Please don't compare our Rail to that of other countries, seeing it alone is already humiliating enough

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The Spanish system has different issues though.

E.g., I found it very irritiating that Renfe Cercanias commuter rail doesn't have a real-time time table. Hence, any trip-planning apps will completely ignore commuter rail.

This kind of head-ache doesn't exist in Germany, as DB and the various regional operators have integrated trip planning and you can plan a trip right from the bus stop across from your home to the metro station next to the hotel in another city, often even if that city is in France or Switzerland.

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, no. I use real time apps daily. That you are unable to find them only speaks to your inability to find them.

Here is an example.

Anyway. Germany may have real time apps, but you can't plan anything as the timetables don't match real time.

I'd rather have less "real time" apps if the trains adhere to schedule.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

It's great that there is an app, but I am obviously not going to install a Madrid-only app as a tourist who may only need a single train. I just noticed that Google Maps does allow planning integrated trips too which I missed because I avoid Google services usually, so they're not as present on my mind. (But at least Google Maps is available as website too.)

Renfe itself somehow does not offer a way to plan a trip or book a ticket that integrates high-speed rail and commuter rail. Nor do they appear to be able to sell TGV tickets, as all I see on their booking site are AVE and Avant trains.

In comparison, in Germany, I can book trains from any German operator through the bahn.de website and book tickets into neighboring countries, even including TGV trains to Brussels or Paris.

Granted, Germany is nowhere near perfect, and Trainline as a third party still does a lot more, especially when you're traveling through more than 2 countries, but even they can't offer Cercanias. And really, why is there no way to just book any train/tram/bus in any EU country, from any EU country?

[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I have not made any comment about Germany. My comment is about DB. Tell me about DB. We are not talking about apps.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I am a little puzzled what you mean by your comment.

Your first comment enthused about the Spanish rail system. Then my first comment in thread said that the Spanish rail system has issues too, just different ones than there are in Germany, i.e. planning and booking. You responded saying that my issue wasn't real. I said your critique missed the point, and compared with the planning/booking situation for German rail. What now..?

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Irrelevant considering pricing, frequency and connectivity of minor cities. Going fast is ok. Going often and cheaply while doing an average of 100kmh would be amazing.

[–] cron@feddit.org 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't think that these goals are mutually exclusive.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for politicians they will be

Politicians love the shit that is completely useless but flashy, like a train doing 400kph

Nobody gives a shit about that, we want free trains to everywhere, even if its sorta slow, but that's very boring politically

That's the problem with politics:

People need boring politicians doing boring improvements to society but everyone keeps voting for these vapid but flashy idiots that constantly ruin everything.

I want boring politics

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

The problem is people want fun politics when they vote.

"Fun" ofc.

[–] hsr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In many ways they literally are exclusive. The amount of stops drastically reduces possible frequency as well as speed of service, it takes a long time and really long distance to accelerate and brake at these ~300 kph speeds.

Local rail can service high density areas as well as smaller towns, so you want tracks closer to people. High speed rail usually only connects major stations, so most of the length of tracks could go through the middle of a field.

Two different use cases for rail transport which would ideally each get their own infrastructure, and of course there's plenty of options in between, too.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I once went from Tokyo to Osaka, with very few stops in between ~~and the train topped out at 500kph~~ [apparently it did not :( ]. The only minor annoyance being that my camera wasn't fast enough to capture Mt Fuji at that speed.

It would be awesome to have that same experience between, say, London-Paris-Berlin-Warsaw, and you could consider additional stops in Luxembourg, Frankfurt, and Poznan.

[–] kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Tokyo to Osaka services don't go upto 500 kph. IIRC, the maximum operating speed for that section is 320 kph. Whilst in testing, Maglev trains have breached 500 ( and even 600 kph) barrier, commercially they don't run as of now. (I don't think apart from Shanghai, Maglev runs anywhere and even that topped off at 431 kph).

Traditional bullet trains in Japan exhibited record speeds of ~450 kph in the past but of course, operationally, they aren't run that high.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I recently learned that there is only 66 kilometers of maglev tracks in use. Everyone is up in arms about maglev maglev, when we have classic bullet trains going well fast enough IMO.

I guess there is a reason why the french don't run their trains over some 360km/h even if they can. The cost is probably not worth shaving off 10 minutes of your 2h journey.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What you say is corroborated everywhere on the internet. But I have real trouble trying to square this information with my recollection. Hrmph. :/ Thanks for the correction though.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Funding is finite and so is labor and materials.

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Richard Speed

Ah, yes, that byline sounds like a real person.

[–] renormalizer@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

It's a pen name. His real name is Dick Velocity.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He's pretty prolific according to a quick search. Do you have a reason beyond his name to doubt his existence?

[–] federalreverse@feddit.org 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I guess the joke didn't land for various reasons. :)

But, and I am being completely serious, this being the Register, they definitely had a reason to give this assignment to this particular writer.

[–] pantherina@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

He was probably the fastest