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Dread or dismay about job stuff and disdain or contempt for engineers (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 week ago by SamotsvetyVIA@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

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I don't know why I still have a (banned) account, or why it's subscribed to EngineeringStudents, but look at this.

I know this is just another metastasis of wage labour, but I just feel contempt for these people. Like, your issue isn't with engineering being a shithead profession with nothing of value and just endless upsell! upsell! upsell! lie! lie! lie! bullshit! bullshit! bullshit! but instead you cry over not finding a job in this shitstorm. To be honest, I also feel contempt for my colleagues... probably for the same reason; because they enjoy mucking about in this pigsty too.

Okay, that's it for my unproductive and shitstirring thoughts for the day :)

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[–] Koolio@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've worked on both sides of the engineering / technician class divide in manufacturing. Most engineers are worthless lazy pieces of shit that huff their own farts and insist you're the dumb one.

I'm between jobs at the moment (by choice), on paper I'm like the guy bitching, but even in this market I was able to make some phone calls. You're doing it wrong if you're rawdogging applications. If you have had manufacturing experience like this guy says he has and are known for being okay at making stuff work you'll get hired.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've worked with a few professional engineers in my line of work, and they've all been pretty awful. They tend to do the bare minimum and push a huge amount of technical decision making onto the lower level drafters and designers. Most of them just want to stamp a page and get paid, but aren't afraid to criticize the work of others without ever offering good solutions.

[–] SamotsvetyVIA@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They tend to do the bare minimum and push a huge amount of technical decision making onto the lower level drafters and designers

you've hit the nail on the head. was gonna add more to this but im gonna stick to my promise and shut up

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

We had one running things when I started where I'm at and thank God I was able to push them out. Just an absolutely awful person to work with and a Disney adult to boot.

I noticed that they kept presenting all my work as their own to the owners of the small company, so I started drafting up documention of my work for the owners and giving that to them, then telling that Engineer what I'd done.

Lo and behold, the owners come to me a day later asking why the Engineer was presenting something that I had shown them beforehand as their own work. Luckily they sided with me and I was allowed to challenge them on basically everything going forward and they were gone within a month.

[–] octobob@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've worked technician and design roles for like 10 years in manufacturing, now I just test and do QA and field work, but there are some good engineers out there. It's like anything, there's some boneheaded ones that you wonder how in the world they're getting paid more than you and have more responsibility, but when you get a good engineer who knows their shit it's like night and day. There are a few I really respect and like to bounce ideas off of and talk because I do have a genuine interest in this field.

That being said, the kids coming out of college are the worst. I should not be teaching you how to read a wiring diagram when you're in charge of the project. And don't even get me started on hands-on work they'll do haha. I went to take 480v power off something the other day, they had left it on overnight.

[–] invalidusernamelol@hexbear.net 1 points 1 week ago

That being said, the kids coming out of college are the worst. I should not be teaching you how to read a wiring diagram when you're in charge of the project.

I really don't think any engineering grad should touch a project until theve worked a technician or design position. It's wild how many I've seen be thrown into project management roles straight out of school.

It would be one thing if they were for the most part friendly and knew how to work well with people, but geez, my experience with them is basically like babysitting your boss. So many times I've just had to forsee their mistakes, come up with the solution, and wait until shit hit the fan to fix the obvious problem because they're too proud of themselves to listen.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Okay, that’s it for my unproductive and shitstirring thoughts for the day :)

they day's not even halfway through yet.

when i get in this mood, i engage in some mental bleaching to help dispel the shroud of pessimism that clouds my thoughts.

[–] SamotsvetyVIA@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

they day's not even halfway through yet.

it's night here, love

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

The night's not even halfway through yet!

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

i didn't know abet accredited non-american institutions; thanks for the knowledge drop.