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[–] sanguine_artichoke@midwest.social 211 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Yep, a huge portion of this recent 'inflation' is not cost increases or actual inflation... just basically the wealthy class turning the screws on everyone else because they can.

Don’t worry, my Econ 101 class states that surely a competitor will come in and operate at a lower cost to recoup that cost for the customers!

Wait… what do you mean the competitors are all increasing prices by the same amount knowing demand for diapers is inelastic and the Nash equilibrium is for them to all match price increases so that they all make more money together?

Surely a new entrant will help!

Wait… what do you mean nobody will invest in a new competitor because the market is “saturated” and even if they did the big brands would just decrease prices in the areas they operate until they run out of cash and fold?

Surely a regulator will help!

Wait… what do you mean the regulators feel price increases are due to “too much demand” for products and are turning the screws on consumers?

[–] stjobe@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (16 children)

"Actual inflation" is just some capitalist a bit further up the supply chain "turning the screws on everyone just because they can". Inflation is the ultimate proof capitalism is an inherently flawed system.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"But people are still out here buying staples and maxing out their credit cards, so we can turn the screws just a bit more, right? Right?"

-Rich People Probably

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“There still aren’t enough homeless people. We can keep going.”

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What's terribly sad about that is we're genuinely reaching crisis levels in some cities. These people need housing *with functioning plumbing stat.

I don't understand people's hesitance to house them because it's like... all you people do is complain about them existing and wanting them "out of your downtown." Well shit, it's my downtown too and their downtown as well and all I want is for them to be housed, and holy shit that actually solves your whole fucking complaint because now they're not in "your" downtown.

The amount of human feces that has to be cleaned daily in some cities is genuinely approaching crisis levels. It's literally a public health emergency. It absolutely can get to the level where enough fecal matter is in a general area that large amounts of bacteria will be floating in the air, and people can end up getting ill from food that this bacteria has landed on. No direct contact with feces needed, once it has reached that level. We don't want it to reach that level.

There's my rant about how absolutely fucked the homeless situation is, because its inhumane and should be classified as "cruel and unusual punishment" in my opinion.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I usually try to see both sides of an argument, give 'em a chance.

For example; Supply chains were truly fucked over by COVID. And believe it or not, it's still an issue in late 2023.

But inflation now is almost entirely corporate greed. They saw what they could get away with and pressed it.

Say you have egg laying chickens. You were selling a dozen for $1, but prices spiked and people were happy to pay $2.

You going to drop your prices out the goodness of your heart? And at the same time, feed prices went up (but came down again). Everything went up! Need to repair the fence? $20 worth of wire is now $40 (but that price came down).

That extra $20 was nothing to me, but I can justify keeping my prices up, or even raising them!

Expand that to megacorp's kinda thinking. In my simplistic case, you are solely responsible for the morality of your decisions, and it might be a hard decision. You gonna take less money nice guy?

For a monster corporation? Nah, that greed is spread over a thousand actors, all sanely acting in their best interest.

Capitalism is the best economic system we got, but the flaws are clear. We need strong worker unions and strong legislative oversight. And that is clear as well.

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[–] derf82@lemmy.world 143 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I think corporations learned some very dangerous lessons from the pandemic.

  1. The demand for essential goods is inelastic. They can charge whatever and people still have to but things, especially food, household products, and a place to live.

  2. They can understaff and underpay employees, and people will choose to fault people for laziness rather than the deliberate corporate choices that lead to the situation.

  3. Corporations have built such a large market share so as to have created giant barriers to entry that there is zero competition from new businesses.

  4. Even larger competitor corporations are happy to wink and nod as you both raise prices, cut staff, and give paltry raises because it just means you both make more money, and so long as you don’t say it out loud, it isn’t collusion.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They already knew these things, they just needed an excuse to not cause too much of an uproar. Egg prices went up by way too much too quickly that even the government, who rarely actually does anything about this sort of thing, started an investigation. Magically the prices dropped by a lot, but unfortunately still higher than it used to be.

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 103 points 1 year ago (9 children)

They literally lock up the baby formula in a cage at my local grocery stores now. You know, so criminal scum with starving babies don't pillage them.

If that doesn't signal imminent collapse I don't know what does.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's a drug store chain near me that has a sign, if you need formula and can't afford it, they'll let you have their brand generic formulas for free. You just bring it up to the desk, let them know and they'll scan it and give it to you.

[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Name and opposite of shame?

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I didn't wanna say cause I can't remember if I'm right, but it's in Toronto so likely not something in the states.

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[–] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

That isn't a sign of collapse. That just shows that the average retailer would let a baby starve than lose a dime. Its a reflection of the morality that these people have. But of course they never examine themselves deep enough to have that realisation.

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[–] Digital_man@lemmy.one 71 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Corporations. Do. Not. Care.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Their incentives go directly against our incentives quite often

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm sure all the pro-life politicians who want to save the poor babies will be very concerned about this and congressional investigations will be forthcoming.

Right?

[–] thisfro@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Unless there is a way to pin it on Biden they aren't interested in doing anything.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 57 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The inflation we are experiencing is artificial

[–] Rivalarrival 26 points 1 year ago

In other news, guillotine futures are up 20% in Q3.

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[–] SVcross@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don't worry the market will regulate itself. /s

[–] darthfabulous42069@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (7 children)

So I propose a solution:

We start and fund a non-profit organization designed to produce basic living essentials and sell it at the cost to manufacture, regardless of market pressures. Then we all collectively buy from this non-profit and have a functional means of production legally owned and controlled by the people.

Set up strict rules to ban anyone who has ever worked in any upper management position in any for-profit basic essentials producing company from ever holding any position of power in the non-profit. No one from the corporate world at all. No one from any position in state or federal government. No lobbyists or consultants or members of their think tanks or any of their goons.

Use open source designs for the factories and everyone in the community works together to automate them as much as is possible.

[–] corship@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Sounds an awful lot like communism to me.

I'm in.

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[–] mycatiskai@lemmy.one 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Someone should have Robert Reich be their vice president. He could come out every second day and rip into some fucking companies for the shit they do to keep dragging the whole world down.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Shareholder primacy is upheld by the state putting every publicly owned company antagonistic to its workers and customers, id est, the public.

This means the companies are forced to charge what the market will bear, and it's the responsibility of the government to regulate prices to keep things affordable.

But this means lobbying by companies is an attack on the public. (It's highly profitable to bribe officials and should be illegal. It also means officials who take lobby money are traitors to the public, the nation and their office, whether or not doing so is legal.

So the justification for bullets is there, and has been for several decades. We're just not very good at seeing when we have nothing left to lose.

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[–] explodicle@local106.com 17 points 1 year ago

Remember this discrepancy every time you hear "they'll just pass the costs on to the consumer" with regards to regulation and taxes. It works the same way in both directions; the price is based on what you're willing to pay, not their operating costs.

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