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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 38 points 2 months ago

Chai Hulud.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] don@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Oh, do wipe that childish look of confusion off of your face, Kathryn. Whatever the man’s faults may have been, and many they were, his choice of drink was exceptional. You? You’re but a half-step away from boiling kidney and navy beans!

Get the hell off my bridge, Q!”

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For the first time ever, I’m interested in watching and episode of Voyager. But just this Q episode.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What’s with the Voyager hate around here?

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’ve never been able to get past the first episode. Half the crew is bland and uninteresting, Mulgrew is better as Flemeth or that crazy prison chef, and that blonde guy should be tossed out an air lock.

My siblings tell me I need to watch it in order to witness the worst captain in Star fleet history, but I can’t make it that far.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

lol sorry you had such a bad experience. I really liked Voyager. For me, it’s the closest to TNG. But maybe you hated TNG too?

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Love TNG. DS9 is my fave. Love the new stuff too. OS is great as well.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

No worries. For me DS9 was hard to get in to, but Voyager was easy to slide into from TNG. I rewatch all of them.

[–] klemptor@startrek.website 1 points 2 months ago

Tom Paris is a lout for the first season-ish, but he becomes one of the most endearing characters over the seven-year run.

Chakotay remains bland and uninteresting the whole time.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I must not Lwaxana.
Lwaxana is the mind-killer.
Lwaxana is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my Lwaxana.
I will permit her to pass over me and through me.
And when she has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see her path.
Where the Lwaxana has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Lwaxana: “Why there you are, Jean-Luc.”

Picard: “HELP ME!”

[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago

You feeling alright, Gurney?

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

My name is Earl Grey.

[–] Transtronaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This feels like a meme about the East India Company.

[–] negativenull@piefed.world 9 points 2 months ago

The East Ferengi Company

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Is it? I always assumed Dune was about the US vs. Soviets wars on the Middle East.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The name Harkonnen (though Finnish) was chosen because it sounds Russian. However, no, it isn't really a US VS Soviet story. It's about systems. It's about ecology, power, and freedom. If you only read Dune then I can see how you could think that, but the other books give you a lot more information.

Arrakis is terraformed, and this disrupts the ecosystem of Shai-hulud, which destroys spice production. It also destroys Fremen culture, with people teaching what the Fremen were like, but not really knowing.

Paul and, to an even further extent, Lato II are aggressive dictators. They destroys people's freedom, with the end goal to create people who can't be predicted who rebel, because that's the only way (that they can see) to guarantee freedom for humanity.

I addition to this, the Harkonnen are really just there as a subversion. Paul's grandfather, as he learns in Dune, is the Baron Harkonnen, so he is a Harkonnen. This really destroys any message about it being one side VS the other.

It's about systems. Paul was systematically bread. The Harkonnen and Atreides were used by the emperial system to maintain control and order (although this failed). The system of ecology keeps Arrakis in balance, and the people live in harmony with it. Systems of control prevent people from being free.

[–] Transtronaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

That was an interesting analysis, thanks! I feel it also reinforces my original observation. The East India Company was nothing, if not a system of control that ultimately failed.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

A delicate native ecosystem is being ravaged to enable mass commerce. Spice = oil.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yup. At the same time: a messianic hero rises to lead the chosen people.

[–] Transtronaut@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

Probably, but history repeats itself. That conflict was not the first time the line between business and public interests was muddled with the result of large scale warfare and oppression, nor the last, so the same themes are relevant. And the meme has a very explicit focus on tea.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

... this implies the existence of a coffee planet with giant worms in the delta quadrant ...

[–] Sir_Premiumhengst@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

It is by Earl Grey Tea that thoughts aquire speed, the lips aquire stains, the stains become a warning.

It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

The Earl Grey was better before the production of oil of bergamot was taken out of England.
It just didn't taste the same after the shift.

[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Reminder he was in the movie from the 80s, too. What a shock that was for me years ago.