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WASHINGTON (AP) — Empathy is usually regarded as a virtue, a key to human decency and kindness. And yet, with increasing momentum, voices on the Christian right are preaching that it has become a vice.

For them, empathy is a cudgel for the left: It can manipulate caring people into accepting all manner of sins according to a conservative Christian perspective, including abortion access, LGBTQ+ rights, illegal immigration and certain views on social and racial justice.

“Empathy becomes toxic when it encourages you to affirm sin, validate lies or support destructive policies,” said Allie Beth Stuckey, author of “Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.”

Stuckey, host of the popular podcast “Relatable,” is one of two evangelicals who published books within the past year making Christian arguments against some forms of empathy.

The other is Joe Rigney, a professor and pastor who wrote “The Sin of Empathy: Compassion and its Counterfeits.” It was published by Canon Press, an affiliate of Rigney’s conservative denomination, which counts Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth among its members.

These anti-empathy arguments gained traction in the early months of President Donald Trump’s second term, with his flurry of executive orders that critics denounced as lacking empathy.

As foreign aid stopped and more deportations began, Trump’s then-adviser Elon Musk told podcaster Joe Rogan: “The fundamental weakness of Western civilization is empathy.”

Even Vice President JD Vance, a Catholic convert, framed the idea in his own religious terms, invoking the concept of ordo amoris, or order of love. Within concentric circles of importance, he argued the immediate family comes first and the wider world last — an interpretation that then-Pope Francis rejected.

While their anti-empathy arguments have differences, Stuckey and Rigney have audiences that are firmly among Trump’s Christian base.

“Could someone use my arguments to justify callous indifference to human suffering? Of course,” Rigney said, countering that he still supports measured Christ-like compassion. “I think I’ve put enough qualifications.”

Historian Susan Lanzoni traced a century of empathy’s uses and definitions in her 2018 book “Empathy: A History.” Though it’s had its critics, she has never seen the aspirational term so derided as it is now.

It’s been particularly jarring to watch Christians take down empathy, said Lanzoni, a graduate of Harvard Divinity School.

“That’s the whole message of Jesus, right?”

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[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Empathy is a sin.

Exposing pedophiles is a sin.

Protecting children is a sin.

Healthcare for Gaza is a sin.

Healthcare for Americans is a sin.

Military force against the American people is God's will.

Not sure what kinda fucked up holy war people still supporting this shit believe they're fighting, but it's definitely not a Christian one and you're commiting blasphemy by claiming it is.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 52 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Conservative Christians talking about the "sins" of others.

THEY SUPPORT A CHILD RAPIST WHO IS AN ADULTERER. 🤷‍♂️

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 13 points 6 days ago

Something something splinter log in eye something

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[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Matthew 23 is about these kinds of people. Recommended reading, even for fellow atheists. Keep in mind that the scribes and pharisees that Jesus calls out over and over again were the conservative leaders of his time - “pastors and politicians” - behaving just as ours do today.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 13 points 5 days ago

He generally referred to them as "liars, Pharisees, hypocrites."

[–] VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

“Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
“Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
“Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.
“Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
“Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.
“Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.
“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.
Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
“Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me.
Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

"Blessed are those who praise peace, for they shall bury the peacemakers."

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Shhhhh we don’t talk about that part of the bible

[–] TheHotze@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Its the opposite of a sin. When Jesus sumed up the law and the prophets into two commandments, the one dealing with other people was basically be empathetic.

" So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." Matthew 7:12 NIV.

Conservative christian culture makes people objectively worse.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Fun historical fact: Adolf Hitler was not actually an atheist as is often commonly believed. He was actually opposed to atheism and tried to establish a German "Reich Church" that would teach Christianity aligned with Nazi propaganda. Sound familiar?

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 days ago

Hitler was brought up Catholic.

The Church never excommunicated him.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Right wing Christians want empathy to be a sin because it goes against their politics.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Empathy is a sin because it goes against their Christian beliefs. They’re being persecuted.

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[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 38 points 6 days ago (17 children)

As a Christian, I'm utterly disgusted by how these people are perverting my religion that's supposed to be all about love for others. For your enemy, even.

Feed the poor, shelter the homeless, heal the sick, visit the imprisoned and welcome the foreigner. That's how we will be judged, according to Matthew 25.

The pervert the words of Jesus. First the Prosperity Gospel, and now this.

[–] Cargon@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What does your religion say should be done with these usurpers and blasphemers?

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 8 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Love them? But also counter their false teachings. Loving the people they mislead or hurt, and save them from harm.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Love the sinner, hate the sin" is the boilerplate answer, and fundamentally it's correct, but also never forget that Jesus himself kicked over tables and brandished a whip at these people.

Like, you always think of Jesus as this soft-spoken, kind-hearted individual who always tried to help people. But when he came back to the temple and saw people were using it to try to peddle their wares under the guise and protection of religion, he called that out and threatened violence. And he was right to.

[–] mcv@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 days ago

Oit of control capitalism was the one thing that made him lose his temper.

And yes, "love the sinner, hate the sin", but also protect vulnerable people from harm, and a lot of those conservatives are explicitly looking to hurt people.

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is empathy a sin? Some ~~conservative Christians~~ narssists argue it can be

Mostly a venn diagram containing only one circle.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

This is at the heart of it. They are mostly narcissist.

[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 15 points 6 days ago

"Empathy is a sin" mfs when I kill them

[–] Deathray5@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 6 days ago

And the republican jesus said "hate one another as I hate you". He then dropped kicked a small child for being noisy and asked the disciples why they had let the small child through

[–] elbiter@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're not actual Christians.

[–] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They call themselves that though.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I call myself rich, but if I don't go to work I don't get paid, and if I don't get paid I can't pay the rent... and out the door I ~~went~~ go.

People can call themselves Christians, but unless they actually follow the teachings of Christ, it doesn't mean anything.

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[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 15 points 6 days ago

Key ingredient if you want fascism via christian nationalism. Oh, those gas chambers? Jesus blessed them!

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

now this is actual heresy

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Of course they prefer the term sympathy. That let's them feel like they are looking down in pity at a lesser.

[–] Newsteinleo@midwest.social 12 points 6 days ago

My theory is that this is a play by the right to try an undermine anecdotal evidence and accounts used to persuade people. About a decade ago, the left tried to use data driven arguments while the right use anecdotal evidence, and studies have shown anecdotal evidence to be more persuasive. Now, the left has learned from its mistakes and is using anecdotal evidence and accounts, and it is proving to be effective in undermining the right.

Instead of pointing out the hypocrisy of Christians saying empathy is bad, because it doesn’t work, the left should lean into this narrative. Empathy is a way people will exploit you, data driven studies are the only thing you can rely on. Then fallow that up with explaining how to know if you can trust a data source.

If the left and use the rights own strategy against them instead of trying to fight against the strategy, it will be much more effective. They may be able to start realizing that global warming is real, and racism still exist in this country.

[–] spaghettiwestern@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

"Betteridge's law of headlines is an adage that states: "Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word no."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headlines

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Anyone who thinks empathy is in any way a bad thing is person who cannot be trusted in any way.

[–] 18107@aussie.zone 9 points 6 days ago

The common factor found in all Nazis was a lack of empathy. Without empathy, we are capable of unimaginable cruelty.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There's no hate like Christian... hate?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

"Empathy becomes toxic when it encourages you to affirm sin, validate lies or support destructive policies,” said Allie Beth Stuckey, author of “Toxic Empathy: How Progressives Exploit Christian Compassion.”

Leave it up to Christians to argue that empathy can ve a bad thing

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 days ago

If Christ lived today, these people would be in line, with hammers in their hands, to nail him to a cross.

[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (4 children)

It’s worth pointing out that empathy is different from sympathy and compassion.

Empathy is basically just understanding someone else. It doesn’t mean agreement or acceptance. Empathy is usually necessary in order to manipulate someone effectively.

That being said there is a component to empathy—sometimes called affective or emotional empathy—that reflects the phenomenon of emotional contagion, or how empathizing with someone else’s feelings can sometimes cause you to feel the same emotion on a lesser level.

Sympathy is understanding another person through shared or similar experiences.

Compassion is caring about someone.

What these Christians are talking about is the way there’s a trail from simple empathy to compassion that can cause some people to get over the bigotry and intolerance they have worked so hard to instill in them.

I have some of these Christians in my family. They are good people who have been taught rotten beliefs, and to avoid any critical thinking about said beliefs. I avoid associating with them as much as possible. Religion is a mind virus and these folks have one of the worst strains.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

"Conservative christian" is an oxymoron

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For fucks sake, can ya all stop calling these heathens Christians? Sorry but to be called a Christian you need to follow teacheings of Christ, I know, not obvious at all! -.-'

And no, no jew-like bending rules around till they fit what you want either (wierd line hanged around...NYC IIRC...to allow them to "work" when their religion forbids?). You have the ten tenets, follow them dammit. These dumb fucks break them DAILY.

And that's before we even go into teachings of, you know, being empathetic towards your brethern. You can even replace Jesus with Superman and...ah, sorry, forgot USA conservatists hate him too.

FFS USA.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (5 children)

You can "No True Scotsman" as hard as you want but they're nailing this shit to your church door like that was the only part they learned.

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