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[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 124 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Democratic Politicians: "We're going to ignore you."

Minority voters: "... that's bad."

Republican Politicians: "We're going to pay attention to you! And blame you for everything wrong with the world!"

Minority voters: "That's worse."

Gotta love the state of affairs the US is in.

[–] Grebes@sh.itjust.works 68 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think these issues are being ignored but a two seat majority in the Senate, comprised of red state democrats, does limit the ability to do anything here. If you look at the state level there is a lot happening to address a variety of issues by blue states. Red states are moving backward

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ignored might be a strong word, but, especially on the national stage, there hasn't been the impetus to make strong strides on minority rights for a while. Part of that is the fault of a certain proportion of Democratic voters, and part of that is the fault of Democratic politicians (and all of the blame, of course, lays twice as heavy on the GOP), but it is definitely a continuing problem.

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

Here in Utah, it's: Legislators: We've rescinded all rights to register as a democrat and enacted gerrymandering across the board to ensure we never lose our power. Also, we're putting our state up for sale to the highest bidding oil and gas companies, who needs public lands."

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 97 points 11 months ago (10 children)

You’ve got situations where Democrats help elect Muslims into positions of power, only to have those same Muslims turn around and enact things like LGBTQ+ flag bans. I’m not really sure that there’s much intersection between the Democrat’s platform and Muslim ideology outside of Democrats just trying to protect civil rights in general and at least trying to help immigrants/minorities. That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks, but change takes time and Democrat constituencies aren’t as reliable a voting bloc as Republicans. You keep working towards change you want, or else the other side gets the change they want.

Or you can leave it up to Republicans, who hate your guts and their end goal is likely kicking you out of the country altogether and/or back to the “glory days” of 1950s apartheid America (if not further measures). It’s a shitty choice, but that’s what we’re down to in the US.

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 17 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Sorry, who are the Democratic Muslim elected officials enacting lgbtq+ flag bans?

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago

Hamtramck, Michigan voted in a Muslim majority city council, who promptly banned Pride flags… for reasons:

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned

[–] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] grte@lemmy.ca 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah that article is a little more complicated than “Democrats get Muslim elected.“

Are any of the elected officials in question even Democrats? The article doesn't say.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

It's happening the most in Michigan since a large arab diaspora community has settled in there from the Ford days

Prior to 9/11 arab muslims were a lock in republican voting bloc because christian nationalism hadn't yet locked onto them as a target for persecution, and they often share goals for social policy.

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[–] Azuth 10 points 11 months ago

That Democrats are sometimes ineffective at getting alot done sucks

Or you can leave it up to Republicans, who hate your guts and their end goal is likely kicking you out of the country altogether and/or back to the “glory days” of 1950s

As usual, Simpsons did it first

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 73 points 11 months ago (11 children)

All Abrahamic religions are very conservative. Hardcore Muslims share more values with hardcore Christians than with progressive liberals.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Problem is the xenophobia.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

That's another value they share.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 57 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (19 children)

Who are they going to vote for in what is effectively a two-party system, the Republicans with a sizeable group of Christo-fascists?

They'll get even worse than ignored, they'll be targeted.

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[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 27 points 11 months ago (44 children)

What should Democrats be doing for black voters that they aren't?

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Muslim Americans are going to be so shocked when Trump strips their citizenship & expels them from the country of their birth.

It can happen here.

[–] heckypecky@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You guys seriously need to start talking about getting rid of your two party system

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

The #GOP is outlawing other methods of voting, so good fucking luck with that if you're going to support Trump by staying at home.

[–] griefreeze@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Can someone please identify a few "Muslim issues" that are ignored by Democrats? I can't seem to think of any political issues that could be considered "Muslim"

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Not American

In Canada Muslims vote Conservative

Recently a Liberal visited a Mosque and covered her hair/dressed up for it

They booed her and told her that Muslims will never vote for a pro-gay candidate

We had a nationwide march against gays/trans called the one million march for children, Christian and Muslim leaders joined together to organize it

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[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Yes.

Removing the Muslim ban (Biden delivered on this)

Civil Liberties for Muslim Americans (he won’t meet with Muslim rights groups like CAIR)

Prosecuting hate crimes against Muslims and mosques. (Biden only announced this month that he will get some experts together and make a new policy TBD. Not sure why he waited 3 years to announce he will start to deliver on a campaign promise…)

Evenhanded Israel-Palestine policy (he badly failed at this)

Support democracy in Middle East and Muslim majority countries (he’s failed at this)

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 14 points 11 months ago

Their choice remains: getting beaten up, deported or killed or just getting their issues ignored

[–] tygerprints@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

I love that line from Buster Scruggs. "First time?" at the gallows? Welcome to American politics. You'll be hanged over and over again trying to get what you want and need in terms of representation.

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