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[–] Chariotwheel@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They made a deal with the devil, and now they panic because they need to pay up.

[–] Rilichu@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The GOP gladly let their party turn into a cult and very few cults manage to live on after its leader is dead/no longer viable.

[–] Wiz@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was probably worth it to them since they locked the Supreme Court for a generation at least.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A true rival conservative party, one not devoted to religion, could break through if one existed. I do think the shift is actually left and progressives will form the next second party and the Democratic Party will be the moderate / right party in the future.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, there’s room for something like the republicans were as the Whigs collapsed to rise, but if not there will likely be a democratic splinter into something like a labor/progressive party.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think Gen Z would like that, but it will be a tough road. The GOP looks to die with Boomers and it won't be replaced. Libratarians might get MAGA, but it will continue to be a third party.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a person who would be on the increasingly-poorly-defined "right" in this instance, that sounds dope AF.

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[–] davi@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they've been ready for him; that's why most republicans very publicly kiss his ass; all in the hopes that they don't draw ire when he is inevitably made ineligible to run.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ExiledElf@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed ... and we will deserve it.” - Lindsey Graham

[–] KuchiKopi@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've successfully repressed many of my Trump-era political memories.

Can anyone tell me how Republicans went from "we'll be destroyed and we'll deserve it" to "unggh, Daddy Trump, destroy me harder" between 2016 and 2017?

[–] wile_e8@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Because the Trump cult got emboldened after Trump won in 2016, and it quickly became clear that any Republican that wasn't sufficiently "unggh, Daddy Trump, destroy me harder" would get primaried by someone that was. Kiss the ring or be excommunicated.

It's hard to feel sympathetic for them about it though, the spent the previous 20+ years paying lip service to types of people who make up the Trump cult because they were convenient for winning elections. They just never expected those people would do anything besides vote in the most respectable business-friendly Republican. Leopards, faces, yadda yadda yadda.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

He was winning. Once he was the nominee the establishment republicans all got behind him because otherwise they ran the risk of being primaried

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

He's the best chance the fascist GOP has for survival. :)

[–] Zombiepirate@lemm.ee 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

“For Republicans, the only hope is that when Trump is on the ballot in 2024 … he will turn out rural voters at a rate that overwhelms that phenomenon. It’s certainly possible,” the source said.

Isn't it funny that the only "hope" for Republicans is to re-install a vile, amoral, nepotistic, habitually-lying, tax-cheating, proudly-ignorant, racist, fascist, rapist con-man who tried to overthrow the government?

Wait, not "funny," the other one...

Stupid.

[–] gameboyhomeboy@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like if Trump isn't on the bill due to legal issues there's going to be a coordinated effort amongst wackjob republicans to write him in, resulting in some interesting results in the states that are traditionally a tight race.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Write-ins aren't allowed in some states. In others, they still have to be a registered candidate.

I think Trump will likely be on the ballot in most states, but I think there's a small chance he won't be in Georgia.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It’ll be him. He’s polling above 50% in the primary and every indictment has only further solidified his support amongst conservatives.

[–] aircooledJenkins@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't win primaries without Trump, can't win general elections with him.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Those who support Trump are not a reflection of the values Americans have, but a darkness that America has surpressed since 1865.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Well fucking said man!

[–] willis936@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

And will happily continue to suppress as hard as necessary.

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[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (6 children)

What is the theory of the case on how he loses the GOP primary? He’s polling higher than the rest of the field combined. At this time, unless he dies before the election, I don’t see how he doesn’t end up as the Republican nominee.

[–] FoxBJK@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I feel like a lot of people would still insist on voting for him even if he was dead. Assuming of course that they believe the "liberal media fake news" that he's dead.

Honestly a dead Trump presidency would be a net positive to the world compared to a alive Trump presidency. Do a Weekend at Bernie's I don't care.

Every single day of Trump Presidency 2016-2020 was "What is this moron going to do today?" And just dominating the news. We are still feeling ripple effects of all the BS he rolled back.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Trump spoiling the 2024 election for the Republicans would be like a wet dream come true for me.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trump runs into a issue with the Fourteenth Amendment where states can block him from the ballot. Only a 2/3 vote in Congress can prevent that.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok, aside from bad fanfic what is the way he’s not the nominee and on the ballot in all 51 electoral jurisdictions?

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Legally he can not be on the ballot in any of the 51 electoral jurisdictions per the United States Consitution.

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Disaster without Trump.

Disaster with it.

Sounds like a you problem.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Are you threatening us with a good time? ;)

[–] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Surely they have searched the depths of their party to find the best candidate and this traitorous con man was the best that they could do. JFC there is no need to be a republican anymore.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You ask yourself, what do conservatives want in a President? They want people they don't like to suffer. They want to feel like their way of life is superior to any other and to not be confronted about it. They want to be able to inflict pain and suffering whenever the feel annoyed.

[–] who8mydamnoreos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They want a King. Conservatives are largely people fit to be ruled. You give them too much credit, they are not cruel and evil, they are scared and pathetic.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd argue cruel and evil are derived from scared and pathetic.

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[–] lordxakio@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same thing that happened last time. Everyone knew Hilary was becoming president, and everybody was shocked when it wasn’t.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I knew Hillary wasn't winning the moment she said she was running.

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[–] onionbaggage@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just want to know who in the fuck he picks as his running mate. I imagine that choice will be BUCK WILD.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Oh no!

... Anyway --

[–] shuzuko@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago

All that says to me is that we need to do our damnedest to keep him away from that nomination. I'll be voting in the R primaries next spring, at a minimum.

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