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So GTA VI is rumored to have a trans girl as a main character

On the one had, ok I don't mind. On the other, I have a strong suspicion that shit's going to hit the fan.

I am concerned specifically about the state of modern gaming as a whole and how it can cripple any potential Lucia has.

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[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

The only people saying she’s trans are Neo-Nazis.

She looks like an average cis woman. Bog standard.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh, so it's one of those things. Where they looked at a trailer and examined the frames closely and determined that her jawline is 3/10ths of a mm too thick to be truly feminine and therefore GTA is now a part of the woke agenda and they ruined it. That's a shame.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It’s not even that. She’s just gotten released from prison so she’s slightly muscular and lean. That’s it, that’s all.

Because she doesn’t look like an ultra bimbo with 25 pounds of makeup and anime body proportions, she must be trans.

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Oh right, I forgot that these guys think that women don't have muscles and are just made of jello.

[–] KrasMazov@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hey comrade, I know you didn't meant harm but your use of "normal" here implies trans people aren't normal, it's better to use the word "cis" instead.

[–] ComradeSalad@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 months ago

Ah, I meant more from appearance. As in if this person walked by you in real life, you wouldn’t give it a second though that “Oh, that’s a woman”.

But I get what you’re saying.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I generally think games like those should have character creation. With mandatory pronouns and trans options though, we can't forget to stir the chuds as it is good and proper thing to do.

[–] MILFCortana@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Saints Row* kiiiiiiiiiiiiiinda has this. Good cc and play a girl and you're canon trans (tho it's just people saying wow the boss sure looks really different since the last game)

  • 2 3 4 Gat outta hell, not the new one
[–] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I think the Boss can be considered Canonically Trans if you don't play as a guy in SR2 and onward, since SR1 forces you to play only as a Male Boss.

I think people ingame will comment about how you look very different from how you were in SR1 anyway, due to having to undergo surgery in SR2 because you somehow survived in the boat that exploded in SR1 (and the explosion likely disfigured your appearance)

[–] sevenapples@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can't work in GTA because the story is clearly defined and can't work for any character like, say, Skyrim or Fallout.

GTA SA can only work with a black protagonist, 4 with a slav, etc

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They could write the game like that and define the story for any character, it wouldn't suddenly stop being GTA.

[–] sevenapples@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The gameplay would still be GTA but the type of story would be totally different

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So? Seems you are arguing for something really minor.

[–] ShiningWing@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think their point is that you're giving up a lot of story potential by having to work around the player being a customizable character with no characteristics set in stone, they can't really be characters as much as they're just player stand-ins, which is a problem for a game like GTA where the player character is a well-defined, fleshed out character where various things about them matter a lot in the story, like Niko Bellic in GTA IV being from Eastern Europe and having fought in a war for example

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah i know that they mean that, but i still do not see how it is a problem outside of small formula change.

[–] Flamingoaks@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

just to be clear the "rumor" is that one guy on reddit went "they have a female lead, they are now woke, i bet shes trans".

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Unsurprising,

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The same transphobes rn will download a twerk mod the moment they buy the game

[–] bunbun@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago (5 children)

There's no other hand. Trans representation in the media is good. What is this gamer gate take?

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think the worry is that the character will basically fulfill every CHUD stereotype about trans people and be nothing but harmful representation.

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

[CW transphobia] I brought this before but GTA V had a transphobia issue

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[–] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 9 months ago

like hell chuddie fucks ever cared about trans people or thought of them positively

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

You missed what I said.

The issue is that media in general - and by extension queer media and triple A games - has declined since the mid 2010s to early 2020s. The biggest reason being disjointed story executions, the main concern of the post.

Why do I hold GTA VI to such a high standard? It's because the GTA franchise is not only one of the greatest game franchises to exist but also one of the greatest PROGRESSIVE game franchises to exist - especially San Andreas - GTA is literally making fun of US society similar to Warhammer 40K. The inclusion of a queer protag is a great addition in my opinion.

[–] bunbun@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's valid. I just took it as "they might do it wrong, so maybe they just shouldn't have done it at all", my fault.

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 9 months ago

so maybe they just shouldn’t have done it at all

Nope. I never said they shouldn't do it. I was voicing my concerns about how the state of media and Triple A gaming today can cripple Lucia's potential.

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[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

shit’s going to hit the fan

What do you mean by this?

[–] cayde6ml@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I think what OP means is that the alt-reich gaming community will eventually have a shitfit of epic proportions because of this.

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago

That already happened. I am talking about something else.

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago

GTA VI falling victim to the problems Triple A Gaming has nowadays - namely disjointed story executions, terrible gameplay, and technical issues - which can cripple any potential Lucia has.

[–] Rasm635u@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Imo your take is "meh" at worst

[–] JoeDaRedTrooperYT@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 9 months ago

Ok. I am just concerned about how the state of modern gaming can affect Lucia's character.

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