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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 54 points 11 months ago (4 children)

So you don't really own the truck then, if they can say what you can or cannot do with it after you bought it.

There are plenty of reasons why someone may need to sell their vehicle (job change, moving) within a year. Having Tesla forcing them to only accept $50k buyback for a $122k vehicle sounds on par with Musk's shitty personality.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What I don't understand is why people voluntarily involve themselves with his shitty personality. At least with his employees you know why, they're getting paid. But Tesla customers are paying him.

[–] Feirdro@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Werent these cars all bought while he was still just another tech bro, instead of a full throated fascist?

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

many were preordered yes, why you'd do that is beyond me. I like that tech lady who bought a model 3 and refit it into a truck

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Rivian has had a fully functional, and well regarded electric truck on the roads for years now, and they start at $50k less than the Tesla. Why go with Tesla at all? I guess if you want a truck that looks like John Delorian designed it during a cocaine binge, and left all the cool parts on the design room floor, then a Tesla is a good choice.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

The truck looks more like Melon designed it with his crayons.

[–] DaDragon@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Honestly I really like the design. Apparently it’s pretty good aerodynamics-wise, and I enjoy stainless steel as a body material. Same reason I really like the DeLorean or N-Vision 74

[–] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

I think it's ugly as balls. But then some people like the look of balls, and I respect individual preference. Life would be a lot more boring if we all liked the exact same things.

On the other hand Elon is piece of shit.

Maybe buy the DeLoean and spend the extra $90k on a working Flux Capacitor?

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

The construction they had to do to achieve the look is completely fucked up, though. It's awful in collisions and will be extremely expensive or impossible to repair.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

Simone. Although she admits her modding kinda destroyed the car's performance.

[–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Okay, but this is not an unusual practice with car makers and specialty cars. Now is it legal? That's a whole other can of worms. But the biggest instance of this whole kind of thing that I can remember is when John Cena was sued by Ford for selling his Ford GT.

So you don’t really own the truck then

Well yes and no. Yes you may transfer the property like you own it, you just cannot resell it, which sounds silly but there's a technical difference. But in the utmost strictest sense, nah, if you cannot turn it as a profit "ownership" is seriously lacking.

There are plenty of reasons why someone may need to sell

Not to defend any of this, but usually those kinds of people aren't buying specialty cars, which the Cybertruck would met all the requirements for a Court to treat it as a limited run.

Having Tesla forcing them to only accept $50k buyback for a $122k vehicle sounds on par with Musk’s shitty personality.

Oh yeah, absolutely. All of the restricted resell of specialty vehicles is bull. But it's not just Musk's shitty personality here, it's an ugly side of specialty cars in general.

All of that said, A court did actually rule against Ford once but it was on a super technical term in that the owner sent the car to an auction house, which sold the car, thus technically not the "owner" selling the car. Ford has since updated their anti-flipping contracts to include this provision.

There's all kinds of reasons car makers employ anti-flipping and resale restriction. Another one is the Ford A-plan stuff. People who buy cars on Ford's AXZ-Plan have these kinds of restrictions for six months and, if they're caught it could cost them their job as well as a fee.

And I know I feel like I'm picking on Ford, they're like the Nintendo of the car industry, they will heavily litigate you to death. But all the car companies do this stuff. Ford is just especially inclined to retrieve their stuff or due payment. And if you enjoyed that, imagine how fun it is to have one of these restricted resale vehicles and it gets repossessed, those are real fun situations.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago
[–] Feirdro@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Silly pleb, property is for good white Christians and people who can afford large campaign donations.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

You were planning to flip one, huh?

Scalpers are a pox on our society, good riddance

[–] WidowsFavoriteSon@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This isn't a truck. This is an Emotional Support Vehicle.

I mean, imagine trying to pile a half cord of wood in that thing. Or a yard of mulch. Or anything else that you would actually use a pickup truck for.

Granted, the overwhelming majority of pickups never see anything in the back besides a rake or a couple spilled bags of groceries, but Christ on a crutch, this pile isn't even pretending to be useful.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It has the same bed size as a Ford F150 Lightning. The bed is fully lined as well. Why do you think it's not suitable for those tasks?

[–] AmberPrince@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well two things. One, the bed has that weird slope on the side meaning you have to get things directly from the tailgate if you aren't tall enough to reach over.

The second and more important factor: the target demographic. Country boys that do that kind of shit deride electric vehicles.

[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I can see your first point, but the second one is moot. Just because it's a different target demographic, doesn't make it any less a usable pickup truck.

[–] DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Whoa, now, don't you go Lewis Black'ing and imagine I wasn't gonna notice. Hehe, wp.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

We need our freedom of speech to tell lies, but the customer should not have freedom to own property.

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

if "Tesla has reasonable belief that you are about to breach this provision, Tesla may seek injunctive relief to prevent the transfer of title of the Vehicle or demand liquidated damages from you in the amount of $50,000". Ah yes, very normal.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What happens if the other person sells it, do they do the same to them?

[–] squiblet@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Might be a matter of contract law. Typically, the second buyer would not be bound by the original contract. I wonder though if Tesla has a clause like 'anyone who buys the car must also agree to these terms' or a shrink-wrap EULA like 'operating this car means you agree to the terms'. I wouldn't be surprised, but I'd be surprised if it's enforceable and/or legal.

[–] Zellith@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The cybertruck design is something that every 5 year old has drawn since cars were first invented.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'll be honest. I really like it. Looks like an 80s vision of the dystopian future. I'm of a certain age and watched the right movies for it to appeal to me.

It's just a shame it's stainless steel not aluminium. Would have been significantly lighter, cheaper to make, easier to repair, available in different colours, and crumpled better in an accident.

Right now, it's too heavy to be legal to drive on a regular driving license where I live. That and I don't want to support Musk, so won't buy a tesla car till he's left the company.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I really like it. Looks like an 80s vision of the dystopian future.

Ha. I've said the exact same thing about what it looks like and that's why I don't like it.

[–] drdabbles@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I can't wait.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Wow, seems like a solid and reliable investment.