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Is it just me? (lemmy.zip)
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[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 57 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm 100% neurotypical and and find that pretty much every community is just a bunch of relatable memes. ADHD, Autism, Bi-polar disorder, depression, etc.

Same thing with all the various sexual identities. I'll call out bisexual people because I think most of them will admit it: they'll take literally any behavior and appropriate it as a key element of bi culture. Lemon bars? Bi. Bad sitting posture? Bi. Cuffed jeans? Bi. Finger guns? You're not a goofy sitcom character, you're bi! Appropriating any innocuous behavior as part of your sexual identity's culture? Bi!

I've got no problem with it. Anything for more good memes.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 11 months ago

By definition, only the most neurotypical and relatable memes get upvoted. The real neurodivergent ones get buried.

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's not just bis. Gays do it to. I found out from Reddit gay subs that I should be a fast walker. Apparently gay people all walk fast. Not something I've ever noticed.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's funny how innocuous stereotypes sometimes get popular like that. In ten or twenty years that stereotype will have been repeated by the current generation so much that the next generation will find it offensive.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I swear that someday the word "autistic" will become offensive

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Any word is offensive if you use it in a manner to cause offence.

A muppet is a kids puppet with a hand in it, very entertaining, but if I call you a muppet I'm saying you're all mouth and no brains.

Most insults for stupidity are archaic medical terms describing a lack of normal capacity.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but saying "lunatic" doesn't carry the same weight as the R slur. I think "autistic" may eventually carry that weight

[–] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Because people are less offended about being called crazy than deficient. That's nothing new.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Nah, that's the thing with mental disorders and other things: They're usually just an imbalance of otherwise normal behaviors/moods/etc. Most people should be able to relate to most mental disorders.

They just shouldn't do the, "lol I'm so OCD!" thing, because that trivializes how nasty the real disorders get. The people with the disorders don't just have flashes of silly desires or emotions (usually), but rather a literally debilitating to normal daily life disorder that no one would want to deal with.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

"I have to sort my books!' she cried,

With self-indulgent glee;

With senseless, narcissistic pride:

'I'm just so OCD!'

'How random, guys!' I smiled and said,

Then left without a peep -

And washed my hands until they bled,

And cried myself to sleep."

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I always find this interesting because my story went something like this:

"ADHD are just people with normal impulses, but more frequent and less able to control them"

"I'm smart and able to multitask really well. Sure I fixate on things sometimes but everyone does. And of course I can have that espresso before bed. Caffeine doesn't affect me."

"Everyone creates patterns in their life to remember basic things. Counting steps in my daily routine, time boxing tasks with alarms, and giving myself lots of little rewards is just efficient time management. I wouldn't call it a coping mechanism"

"Having kids is stressful and my patterns are broken, that's normal right? I should talk to someone."

"What do you mean I'm 'ADHD as fuck'. You're a doctor, that's not appropriate language"

"This medication reduces a lot of my internal anxiety and let's be be in control of my life. I had no idea normal people felt like this all the time"

So, please, tell us how neurodivergent traits all seem normal to you. And welcome to the club.

[–] bigfish@reddthat.com 6 points 11 months ago

You just described me perfectly. I'm currently at the "What do you mean 'I'm ADHD as fuck'" step.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

"ADHD are just people with normal impulses, but more frequent and less able to control them"

I mean that is a pretty good description of it. The impulses aren't a neurodivergent trait, it's the frequency and reduced ability to control them that are neurodivergent.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

ADHD is a great example, because EVERYONE has flips of attention or forgets what they were saying. They ARE normal behaviors, they just happen way more often to people with the disorder.

That's also why they're so easy to rationalize away.

I say this because there is too much self-diagnosis going on and too much trivialization, not because people excuse their disorders instead of seek help. Most people that need help cannot even consider getting it due to cost.

The gross harm trivialization does should not be sidestepped just because it can be said to happen sometimes. I do not speak from personal experience, but from talking to 'normies'. THEY do not understand how nasty the real disorders are, and they also use this exact kind of joke to dismiss it.

I want to DE-normalize the use of the medical terms by non-medical people, not to raise awareness of how many people have disorders. The joke as portayed in the post is normalizing the disorders, not raising awareness. Someone disinterested in their task shares A LOT of qualities and thought processes of an ADHD person. Of course a psychologist or psychiatrist should easily tell the difference... but do the uneducated? Are the teenagers and immature who are willing to wear a condition without diagnosis able to tell?

Mind, I still laughed at the joke, I just want to push back against some interpretations of it.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would agree with you except that there's a massive disparity of diagnosis based on gender and race and age. There are a lot of absolutely valid self-diagnosis out there, by people who have been overlooked by the system.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I agree it is a problem as well. These are two sides of the same coin.

[–] Tischkante@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago

I'm so quirky my new kitchen was delivered and in boxes while I microwaved everything for 14 months 🤷‍♂️

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah but it’s really funny to say “I’m so ocd” to the sorts of shit that got me diagnosed with it. “I’m so ocd my panic takes a spiral pattern” or “I’m so ocd I have to check if I locked my car door 3 times, not 2, not 4, maybe 6, but sometimes 9”

[–] TheFool@infosec.pub 26 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Don’t worry ADHD isn’t a real illness, we‘re all just faking it because we’re lazy

[–] flicker@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago

Joke's on you! I'm too lazy to fake anything!

I'm even too lazy to

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I was gonna write a fully researched rebuttal but... eh

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 4 points 11 months ago

It'll be fine, just get yourself a day planner! Just make sure it matches the other 3,729,241 that you've bought or have been bought for you.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same as depression or so people are telling me.

"Just lighten up, be yourself and enjoy life. Good things will come."

No, fuck you.

[–] TheFool@infosec.pub 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But don’t you know some people have it worse than you?? /s

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

My mom's go to. Followed by "do something nice for yourself".

I don't understand why she thinks that the fact other people are suffering would make my life any better. Am I such a shit human being? :(

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Yeah it’s just you, the rest of us are diagnosed and know we’re there

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Don’t blame yourself, “Getting names of people I just met wrong” and “this song is stuck in my head” aren’t exclusive to those with ADHD.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

How about "This song i used to like has been playing nonstop in my head for 8 days and I just wish it would stop."?

I was actually diagnosed as a kid though.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Hm. What if I want it stuck in my head for 8 days?

[–] isthingoneventhis@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Every time I see things like this it's just like one more piece of straw to the camel's back xD I really should get tested ...

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How about asking someone to repeat something twice, really really wanting to retain the information and then you fail for the third time?

Also does anyone else end up losing the entire message because you are telling yourself to remember it, and then you realize, they are done talking and you still don’t know?

[–] flicker@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

And that thing where you're reading something, and you know you read the words, but none of them "stick" and now you have to re-read the whole thing to figure out where you got lost.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What about “these amphetamines are making me sleepy”

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago

man, I'm really glad I got medicated, I can actually think straight and act normal for once! Maybe now I c....zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

!adhd@lemmy.dbzer0.com for those wondering.