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Utterly unapologetic to the point of blaming society for "failing her" instead of owning up to her shitty parenting
I mean, society did fail her but that doesn't mean she shouldn't take responsibility for what happened. She left her gun in her purse, unsecured, around a six year old with serious mental health issues. She is absolutely liable. That doesn't mean that she is the only one to blame, tho
Society has failed most of us, we're still responsible for our actions. She had an unsecured gun with no lockbox or trigger lock, this is on her.
Oh, I agree. She had a gun and thus a responsibility to keep it out of her kids hands. I read a bit more about it, and apparently she discharged the weapon a short while prior because she believed that her boyfriend was cheating on her. Yikes!
Doesn't change that we can't recognize that this likely stems from many societal problems
I think the world would be better, if we accept BOTH personal responsibility, and the responsibility that we have to others living in the society we all share. It probably won't happen any time soon, but I can try to spread the idea
Just ban guns and call it a day. We can deal with the occasional crazy person with a knife.
That kid didn't have mental health problems. He was just imitating how he watched his hopelessly retarded, selfish, dysfunctional and immature parents act.
As a non-US citizen I'd like to reiterate that you can get rid of this idiocy only by banning guns.
Not interested in American opinion regrading this one, sorry, it's a super simple fact with no discussion worth wasting time for us.
'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
(... from almost 10 years ago now jesus)
Statistically, most Americans agree with much stronger gun controls. Even a significant portion of the conservative block. It's the few holding the rest of us ransom.
Not interested in American opinion regrading this one
Kind of shitty to assume that all Americans have the same opinion, no?
Experience has taught me that unfortunately, while you don't all have the same opinion, most do reject the simple premise of the original comment, for various reasons, whether they're "left" or right.
Just so you've had the experience of meeting one, I am an American who is for banning guns.
Everyone from a country has a the same opinion. That newborn baby in Russia agrees with Putin on everything. There aren't +8 billion humans with their own pov, there are about 190 of us.
I find it frustrating when people make a statement, and then say they aren't interested in hearing a specific group's opinion. It's rude af.
I, from the UK, once had a 'conversation' about gun control with an American on Reddit. What brought this about was the day before a 9 year old girl was killed by a stray bullet from a drive-by. One moment she was in her bedroom doing some homework, and the next she was dead.
After a lot of back and forth with him getting more flummoxed and aggressive he then said something like "If she was outside playing like a normal kid then she wouldn't have been killed."
Yep, he blamed her.
That was the time I realised it was a waste of everything talking about it.
people who argue that their right to guns is more important than a persons right to life is inherently moronic, and shouldn't be listened to.
One thing I've learned is that, if you write a comment with reasonable
balance of views and still get attacks, the posters are people without proper trainings on critical debates.
In case of the gun ban, it's even worse because most people never lived in the rest of the world.
You are not from a country, you are giving advice to that country, and you say you have no interest in what people from that country have to say.
I must admit in terms of ability to persuade people to your side this is a rather bold strategy. "Hi I have no stake in the outcome, strong feelings about the outcome, and I don't care what you the person who lives with the outcome thinks. Also you should do what I say".
I genuinely know you are correct. To be honest with you, I don't like what I wrote.
What's still interesting to me, this horrible human, is that I also gave up convincing Americans on guns and yet still can't stop posting. The endless debates on the internet about a topic that we outsiders tend to think has a simple single solution made me write that comment. I couldn't stop myself. Apologies.
He's not wrong. If we want to get rid of the idiocy. If we're willing to live with it, and based on our actions, we apparently are, then we don't need to ban guns.
From a pro-gun stance, most of the discussions are useless anyway.