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A Christian mother and daughter were shot dead by an Israeli soldier on the grounds of a Catholic church in Gaza City on Saturday, the Latin Patriarchate of Jerusalem said.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 68 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One was killed as she tried to carry the other to safety," it added.

Ah yes the IDF using their learned war crime tactics against civilian women in a church.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 12 points 9 months ago

And yet you won't hear a peep about this from the 'Christians' in the West.

[–] kaleid@lemmy.world 62 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I know Hamas is a thing and I don't support it, but it really saddens me to see Israelis do things that were done to them just 80 years ago. There's enough space for all of us on this planet.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 50 points 9 months ago (2 children)

See that's the thing, Israelis by and large aren't the Jews that survived the Holocaust, most of those folks stayed in Europe or immigrated to the US and Canada.

Ashkenazi Jews in Israel who trace back to an arrival from that period are mostly the folks that handed the Nazis a fat stack to transfer their monetary assets to the banking infrastructure already established by the Zionists in Israel.

Of the Holocaust Survivor families that ended up in Israel, a third live in abject poverty, because again, these were the folks that couldn't just pay off the Nazis to let them go somewhere else, all of them face language discrimination because Israel banned the official use of historical Jewish languages like Ladino, Yiddish, and Mizrahi, and all of them risk getting slurred at by the non-holocaust-survivor families, specifically calling them Soap which is just one of the most blatantly heinous things I've discovered about how one community gets treated by another.

There's also the Russian Jews who ignore comparisons to the Holocaust and identify more with it being a rightful act of irredentism akin to the war in Ukraine.

[–] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ladies and gentlemen meet “the most moral army in the world”…

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

But Biden said they have the right to defend themselves.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The Roman empire famously never fought an offensive war. They were always defensive wars. Sometimes preemptive defensive wars.

Preemptive defense, looks a heck of a lot like an offense, to the victims

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

To be honest, the Roman empire's favorite target was... the Roman empire. They fought more internal than external wars, especially from the 3rd century onwards.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago

It would depend a lot, Carthage for example absolutely was going to shoot first if Rome didn't, the Hellenistic world as well most likely, especially after Hannibal fled there after the second Punic War.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 33 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)
[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Isn't Ben-Gvir the person who purposefully vandalized the former PM Rabin's car and who was suspected of having connections to those involved in assassinating Rabin?

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 24 points 9 months ago

I've linked to his wikipedia article above. Here's a relevant quote:

In 1995, Ben-Gvir came to public attention for the first time, when he appeared on television brandishing a Cadillac hood ornament that had been stolen from Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin's car, and declared: "We got to his car, and we'll get to him too." Several weeks later, Rabin was assassinated by right-wing extremist Yigal Amir.

But that's arguably not even the worst bit in the article.

[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You'd think if they were gonna break out ancient traditions of discrimination against Christians that they'd get creative and do something making Lion noises at them.

[–] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

Religious folk aren't the most creative, ironically enough.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Zionists are the new Nazis.

Treat them as such.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 31 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Israel's campaign to crush the militant group has so far killed at least 18,800, mostly women and children, according to the territory's Hamas government.

Calling it "Israel's campaign to crush the militant group" is arguably too charitable at this point.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Nothing "arguably" about it. It is a deliberate campaign of genocide against a people, NOT a military campaign focused on Hamas.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Israelis governments efforts to solve the Palestinian problem........

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

This is it!

For those who are uninformed, Nazis struggled with the exact same issue and their solution was the Holocaust.

Here you go, well-documented history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_question

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

“Israel’s campaign to crush the ~~militant~~ group”

There we go.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 28 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Here are the women in question, by the way. They shot the older mother ("grandmother") first and her daughter, the middle-aged woman, tried to drag her to the church before the IDF shot and killed her as well.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

~~Nazis~~ Zionists.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Zionists are the new Nazis.

Everyone who is a Zionist or who supports Zionism should be treated as those who are Nazis or support Nazism.

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

If you mean the political party, that would be Likud aka plural Likudniks. Translates to "consolidation" in Hebrew, as in, the coalition of right wing interests in Israeli government. There are more moderate factions but they lost. The best way to stop the genocide is to dismantle the party. It took world war 2 to stop the third reich's momentum. We could also try to convince Dr. Frankenstein to bring his monster to heel, even if only for their own stupid sake

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