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[–] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Putin recently accepted that he got duped by NATO and US in 2000s. If west thought they could control Putin's oligarchy by sanctioning the Western markets and the oligarchs, they don't know about Putin and Russia itself. They gave Putin a free hand to push pro western oligarchs out of Russia and seize everything for the Russian State. If US chooses to be more violent Putin will not hesitate to put a hammer and sickle flag on kremlin 🀣.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Putin will never be a communist, he is as anti-communist as it gets. Being aligned with China is just a result of realpolitik.

[–] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago

Gamal Nasser and Nehru were too anti communist but their agenda was anti western colonization which gave rise to non aligned movement and 3rd worldism.

[–] SadArtemis@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Honestly, I hate his reactionary politics, I'm aware Russia is very far from perfect, and Putin certainly did slip up in the 2000s- but the reality of what Putin is doing for Russians- from fending off the excesses of the oligarchs, to now fending off NATO and really bringing Russia back to a resurgent age, and being one of the foremost leaders of multipolarism and a resurgent anti-imperialist movement- well, I can't help but deeply admire him. Even as someone who's trans myself- IMO truth is- in the sum of his actions, the man is one of history's greatest heroes in my book.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He is definitely a very competent politician, but still let's not give him that much credit. He still inherited soviet infrastructure and a highly educated workforce.

[–] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Maximum Soviet infrastructure were all sold and got dismantled. Russia updated the military industrial complex and completely nationalized it after Putin came to power.

[–] mughaloid@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

He is far better than all western mainstream idiotic left combined. His greatest take is understanding the survival of Russia is linked with China and the 3rd world. He has changed the course of world history along with Xi.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago
[–] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I wish more governments do the same and seize western assets.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

TLDR:

Having invested untold billions into building factories and other infrastructure in Russia, hundreds of companies were forced to leave while selling off their assets at fire-sale prices. Western politicians predicted that it would help strangle the Russian economy and undermine the Kremlin’s war effort. What actually happened that many were simply sold to local management and business continued as usual. The exits of major Western companies turned into a windfall for domestic business and the state itself.

Western companies that have announced departures have declared more than $103 billion in losses since the start of the war, and the exits were subjected to ever-increasing taxes, generating at least $1.25 billion in the past year for Russia’s war chest.

In all, Putin has overseen one of the biggest transfers of wealth within Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union. Huge swaths of industries elevators, tires, industrial coatings and more are now in the hands of increasingly dominant Russian players.

β€œYou screwed up, left it,” he said. β€œWe picked it up inexpensively. Thank you.”

Mr. Putin scoffs at the notion that leaving will hurt. β€œDid they think everything would collapse here? Well, nothing of the kind happened,” he said this month. β€œRussian companies took over and moved on.”

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is the proof that you can tax wealth. Usually, you say 'Tax wealth' and the corporations go, 'If you raise taxes, we'll leave.' To which, my response has always been, 'Off you fuck, then, and good luck taking the land, workers, and consumers with you. Putin has proved that they can't. This is why he's dangerous. There's probably more in this than the war, although it's hard to compare them. Workers in the west are absolutely not supposed to understand this, hence the state of Western journalism.

[–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

South American and African nations are absolutely studying how it's unfolding. The only caveat I see is that the state in question has to be big enough to have a self-sustaining system if they pull the trigger.

[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's considerably easier if you border China to be fair. I could easily see the US and its lackeys blocking shipping (or at least trying).

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Exactly, if companies leave the market they create a niche that will be filled by somebody else. It's really that simple. And I completely agree that western media works really hard to make workers think that they need the parasite class while they're the ones who actually produce things.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The West's sanctions on Russia since February 2022 have been one of the greatest self-owns in human history.

[–] Drstrange2love@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally the only one who better at this besides Russia was the USA, cannibalizing European industry and exporting natural gas at exorbitant prices.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just love how the whole thing was premised on chauvinism where they took it for granted that backwards Russians couldn't figure out how to operate these businesses without the enlightened west. This is what happens when people start getting high on their own supply.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Straight out of the Nazi Germany playbook. Sometimes I wonder whether the ruling class of the west genuinely thinks of the non-west as untermensch.

[–] ihaveibs@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not just the ruling class, unfortunately.

[–] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

It is fortunate for China, Russia, etc that the West underestimates them and has no interest to learn about them.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 2 years ago

I think it's exactly that, the policy towards Russia and China really does seem to be rooted in the idea that they're just not able to develop on their own.

[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

When Marx said that capitalism will provide the means to its own destruction, I did not think that he meant this.