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Destinee Thompson was supposed to be on her way to lunch with her stepmother in August 2021 when Colorado police, mistaking her for a robbery suspect, fatally shot the pregnant mother as she fled in her minivan.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 124 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Snelling added that the agency later discovered Thompson had warrants out for her arrest and the autopsy found illicit drugs in her system.

Man, I hate it when the cops bring up this irrelevant bullshit. All they’re trying to do is make the victim look less sympathetic, and make themselves look less bad in comparison. Even if the officers had known about the warrants and drugs, these facts don’t make it okay to gun a woman down.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I wish reporters would flip this on the cops. "Two officers, with no active warrants, killed a woman."

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go even further.

Two officers, one of which had 7 public complaints in their file, killed an unarmed pregnant women

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately if they write like this they get no more tips from the police. So they act out of self interest and always write middling headlines

[–] Slwh47696@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Two racist, wife beating police officers murdered a woman"

[–] sudo 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

racist, wife beating

police

What's with the redundancy?

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[–] Diurnambule@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

Two officers, with two active affairs for abuse of power, killed a women

[–] sawdustprophet@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago

I wish reporters would flip this on the cops. "Two officers, with no active warrants, killed a woman."

I've seen this headline a few times.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

Remember when a cop broke into Botham Jean's apartment and shot him in the face while he was sitting on his own couch eating ice cream? Remember when afterward they had a press conference to show off the <1 gram of marijuana they found just in case that made him a bad person who deserved to die.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah they had no reasonable suspicion to target her.

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[–] BongRipsMcGee420@lemmy.world 123 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Funny how "fatally shot" takes the sting out of "gunned down" or "killed".

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Murdered Two Innocent People." Allegedly. But also actually.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

And it's so easy to get around that too. Just say "the Police killed a woman..." That is an absolute fact. Not saying murder which is a crime that they haven't yet been found guilty of.

[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] sunbytes@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

"heavy metal poisoning"

"Haemorrhagic issue" (i.e. bled to death on the kerb)

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Officer-adjacent ballistic event resulted in a cessation of vitality in a non-suspect personage

They take your life in the street, then they take your humanity at the press conference.

[–] plain_and_simply@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago

Agreed. Too ambiguous. Plus the photo makes it seem like she lived! WTF

[–] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

@MicroWave

They murdered her because they thought she was a shoplifter?????

In what universe did it become ok to murder anyone for shoplifting???????

#ACAB always and forever

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Doesn't matter how small the crime is or how unthreatening the suspect is. Failure to comply is cause for any and all escalation.

"Ready for the pop? Here comes the pop!" Cops laugh, fist-bump while rewatching bodycam video of their dislocating shoulder of 73 y.o. woman with dementia

We heard about that first when it happened, and nothing at all was done when it was just some old lady hurt. (edit: Even with bodycam) THEN the laughing video came out a few days later and THEN the public outcry ramped up enough they had no choice. Only then was there any action against those officers.

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[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

But… but… she used a knife! She backed into an inanimate object! That made her an immediate, deadly threat!

Edit: that was sarcasm, folks. Jeez.

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[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Frustrated by the district attorney’s decision last year not to charge the officers, Thompson’s family filed a wrongful death and excessive force lawsuit on Tuesday against five officers from the Denver suburb of Arvada who were present when she was killed.

[–] samuraipizzacat420@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I don't like "the shoot first, ask questions later" mentality. I always thought a cop should be a white knight. They need to be ready to throw down their lives to save someone. A us vs them mentality, the fact the police are people and some have families and their own wants and needs will mess with anyone's line of thinking. Police have to be ready to risk opening the door to confirm a dangerous suspect before they use force to try and save themselves.

[–] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't know why so many people seem to forget this, but cops aren't supposed to shoot guilty people either.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 year ago

Judge Dredd was suppose to be cynical satire not something we actually want

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then maybe we should have actual standards for who becomes a cop? But that'd leave us with no cops. Problem solved?

[–] cedarmesa@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] QHC@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

the fact the police are people and some have families and their own wants and needs will mess with anyone’s line of thinking.

Almost like they should be carefully evaluated and trained to make sure they can properly handle tense situations.

Police have to be ready to risk opening the door to confirm a dangerous suspect before they use force to try and save themselves.

Not if they are protected by every level of the system from any possible consequences. So much easier to just assume all citizens are a potential enemy and go in gun's blazing. Just to be safe (for themselves).

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

fact the police are people and some have families and their own wants and needs will mess with anyone’s line of thinking.

As human beings with families and wants and needs they should have the empathy to realize their escalations are going to end or permanently change the state of someone else's life. They are the trained professionals.

The person they are trying to talk to could be stupid, deaf, high, mentally challenged, terrified, in the midst of a panic attack or breakdown from other causes, or any of a million other things that will cause them to not comply as expected.

Once she was in the car, block her in, call for backup. While you wait for them do one of the tens of other possible choices I'm not taking the time to list right now to immobilize the vehicle without smashing a window and putting a potentially innocent person deeper into their very human, very biological fight or flight response.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thompson, sitting in her minivan and surrounded by five officers, locked the doors and refused to get out, repeating, “It wasn’t me,” the district attorney wrote in the 2022 letter explaining their decision not to charge the officers.

One officer smashed the passenger window with a baton, and Thompson backed the car up, hitting a police vehicle parked behind her. She then drove forward over the curb and onto the road.

One officer began shooting, according to the district attorney’s letter, because he believed another officer was struck by the car or being dragged under it, and eventually shot and killed Thompson. Her unborn child also died.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Right out of the playbook.

  1. Terrify and/or physically attack the suspect.
  2. When the suspect responds as all humans do to being terrified or attacked:
  3. Ramp up the use of force, and if you don't kill them you at least get to add resisting arrest or assaulting an officer.
  4. No worries if you've destroyed someone's life, permanently decreased their overall health, or killed them. The taxpayers will pay the inevitable settlement, and there's almost no chance of criminal charges.
[–] Otakulad@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget it mentions she had warrants and illicit drugs in her system. Because then that justifies the shooting after the fact.

Right right, I left out the character assassination.

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