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submitted 6 months ago by _number8_@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

while it seems everyone else says 'happy christmas'

which imo is a way better phrase, it's very ... pragmatic. happiness is more attainable than merriment. how often is anyone merry?

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[-] ndru@lemmy.world 85 points 6 months ago

Merry Christmas is a popular expression in the UK too.

I think that merriment is actually much easier to attain than happiness. One could be miserable in life, but have a few drinks and be merry.

[-] phorq@lemmy.ml 33 points 6 months ago

Is it wrong for me to say that the pessimism with a side of alcohol is the most British you could possibly describe being merry?

[-] RainfallSonata@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago

Personally, merry Christmas just sounds better than happy Christmas. Something about the repeated "m" sound, I think.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago

That's called euphonics, and I agree

[-] Deceptichum@kbin.social 22 points 6 months ago

It was bad when Hitler did it and I’m not going to suddenly start agreeing with it.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago

It's Christmas! Let the guy do a little euphonics if it makes him happy.

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[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 6 months ago

Who is "everyone else" in this story?

The only place I know that days Happy Christmas is the UK

In Australia, it's merry

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

I'm from the UK, and I've always said merry.

I doubt it's any more prevalent in a specific country and more likely specific to individual families and friends.

For example, i always thought it was an american thing to say happy christmas.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

Definitely not an American thing. It's ALL Merry over here.

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[-] ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 6 months ago

Either way, happy and merry Christmas to you :)

[-] bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 months ago

Happy Merry to you too!

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

In the US, it's incredibly rare if not impossible to find someone who says "Happy Christmas." It's either "Merry Christmas" or "Happy Holidays."

[-] TheMongoose@kbin.social 27 points 6 months ago

The song goes “We wish you a merry Christmas”, so that’ll always be there for as long as the song is popular.

Plus (also because of the song, I assume), you say “merry Christmas and a happy new year”, not “happy Christmas and a happy new year”. Too much happy there.

[-] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In my country we say the equivalent of "Have a good Yule".

[-] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

Yule see, yule all see!

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[-] whenigrowup356@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Insofar as there's a distinction between the two, I feel like you've got it switched. Merriment would be a night out with drinks and friends, whereas deep happiness would be more like contentedness with your life choices. But they're about the same. Plus "A Christmas Carol" uses Merry, and it's like the ultimate Christmas story.

[-] JoYo@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

Around here we wish you a homosexual Christmas

[-] Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 months ago

AKA: make the yule time gay.

[-] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"Merry Christmas" is pretty much the only context I see my fellow Americans use the word "Merry" other than deliberately trying to sound upper class British.

[-] berkeleyblue@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

Tradition, mostly.

Dickens used Merry Christmas in his Christmas Carol and the US used the greeting since the 19th century.

In the UK however, happy christmas is more common as the royals used that phrase.

There’s apparently no big thing behind it. Just the way language evolved with different influences in different regions.

[-] Breakyfix@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 6 months ago

am from uk. merry christmas is very much the common phrase here by a long shot

[-] hellothere@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

Agreed - it's merry christmas and happy new year.

[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

We like to brag about our ability to still pronounce the R sound.

Similar to why Brits say Happy Christmas, honestly.

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[-] donuts@kbin.social 9 points 6 months ago

The only people I've personally known who exclusively say "Happy Christmas" are Irish. Are you Irish, OP?

[-] sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Canada says Merry Christmas even though we usually do British spelling and measurements.

Also, the north pole is either in Canada or Russia (not going to look it up) so we are probably correct.

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[-] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago

I think Merry Christmas is a harken to antiquated dialect, much like other religious phrases. Thou shalt not kill or Thy will be done or extra Ecclesiam nulla salus

[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Happy Chrimbo

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

The vast majority of Americans don't even know that 'merriment' is a word. They just know you're supposed to say 'Merry Christmas.' That's it.

[-] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

AND IF YOU DONT SAY IT YOUR WOKE RAAAA

[-] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

The great irony there being "happy holidays" is from the Old English (language, not malt liquor) for "happy holy days."

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[-] oo1@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

Merry also means drunk - at least in common British English.
Therefore it is quite an easy state to attain either from the offy, or a few pubs tat are also open for a few hours in the afternoon.

[-] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

UK here... Merry Christmas, yes. Happy Christmas, yes. Happy Holidays, no, no, no and just for effect no.

[-] GarrulousBrevity@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

What if you don't intend to see someone before New Year's and want to wish them a happy New Year as well, while being lazy?

I really don't get this hatred for "Happy Holidays", because even if you want to discredit the non Christian holidays in December/January, there are still two...

[-] donuts@kbin.social 5 points 6 months ago

I think some people (usually right wing Americans who watched too much Fox News back in the 2000s) are opposed to "happy holidays" because they don't want to acknowledge other religions.

And then there are snobby Europeans who hate and avoid the phrase because it sounds "too American".

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

Is everybody Christian to you?

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