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[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 112 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I dunno, I liked seeing HBomberGuy absolutely ruin James Somerton over plagiarism.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 51 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Helps that HBomberGuy hasn't posted endless rounds of response videos. That's how you milk the drama for views.

Conversely, I'm getting a little tired of Karl Jobst mostly becoming a drama channel against fraudsters like Billy Mitchell or the Open Hand Charity. Those guys do deserve it, but it's sucking oxygen away from Jobst's usual commentary on speed running techniques. He's also working outside his specialty--these are American cases, and he's a lawyer under Australian law--and not all his claims carry weight.

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I haven't watched his videos in a while but isn't he being sued by Billy Mitchell? I assumed his videos were more out of spite than actually chasing drama.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 10 months ago

He was sued by Billy, yes, but the charity case is unrelated.

[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago
[–] stufkes@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Thank you so much for this post, I thought I was the only one. The quality of his content has really gone down as a result of him fixating on the drama. I thought his deep dive into rating retro games was good, but he is becoming full of himself. Needs to step back and reevaluate what the channel used to be about. But I'm guessing the drama makes him more money. He wouldn't be the first youtuber to "go bad" because of the algorithm.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

YouTube recommended me a Jobst video the other day, and I thought "I've already seen his Billy Mitchell video, haven't I?" And I had. What I hadn't seen were the fifteen other videos he's made about him. As I write this comment, his latest video about Billy Mitchell was uploaded 17 hours ago.

[–] Elderos@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't think he's a lawyer.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago

I could have sworn he said he had a legal degree in his home country of Australia, but I can't find any evidence of it now.

[–] BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 10 months ago

No, he’s not

[–] FatTony@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Doesn't help the fact that his (Karl Jobst) latest video is of course AGAIN about Billy Mitchell: "I Just Exposed Billy Mitchell's DUMBEST LIE EVER!" I think I'm starting to see a bit of a patern here...

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[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 71 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

MoistCritikal pumps out a 12 minute video of him sitting in a chair going, “The recent YouTube drama with xXxBlorpkin and Tglof has gone too far” and generates millions of views.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

I’m probably just jealous I can’t upload a stream of consciousness down a camera and call it day while making hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Where did I go wrong in life?

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's because it's Charlie, he's entertaining enough he could commentate paint drying and it'd be the best video I've seen all day lol

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[–] dog_@lemmy.world 49 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I usually don't either, but when a YouTuber threatens the life of another YouTuber (in this case SSSniperwolf doxxing Jacksfilms), that's something that really makes me mad.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Jocat as well. Poor guy got bullied off the internet.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

And then there's Illumigaughtii who straight up financially abused several people and stole their belongings.

Like most of the recent "Drama" has been some pretty serious shit.

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[–] Axiochus@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Considering how lucrative drama content is, to the point where people orchestrate drama, I guess a lot of people care.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s basically a set of IRL crossover episodes. I’m assuming in at least some cases it’s manufactured for the views.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Jugglefruit and Krombusnombus aren’t actually mortal enemies because one said the others breath smelt like cat food and my attention is just being used for ad revenue that’s split between the two?!

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Absolutely disagree. I didn’t know who Linus Tech Tips were till ’23 and then I was like 🎥🍿

[–] freebread@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

I found out who ProJared was on May 9th, 2019.

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[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Isn't the current big drama someone literally doxxing another Youtuber and sending threats to their family alongside nasty parcels+visits?

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think you're talking about SSSniperWolf and JacksFilms. It's particularly interesting because it's not just two people arguing. SSSniperWolf very clearly violated YouTube TOS as well as possibly California law. YouTube's response essentially protected her because she's YouTube royalty, pulling in 1 million+ views on all her videos, which are all her "reacting" to tiktok videos.

It's beyond "drama". It's a giant tech/media company playing favourites with creators who break not only TOS, but copyright law, and US law. It shows they'll look the other way over any infraction so long as you make them enough money.

[–] Sheeple@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Exactly. Calling it "Drama" is an understatement. Though I was also partially referencing Illumigaughtii who is known for abusing her employees and actually fucking other people over financially

People love to dismiss Youtuber serious controversies as "Petty drama" but then usually it's stuff like SSSW and Illumigaughtii which is very much serious shit.

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[–] SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Usually, yeah. But when Coffeezilla's involved, I'm here for it.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

The last video I saw related to coffeezilla was about some crypto scammer.

I didn’t really think that was drama, more just like an exposé.

If he is involved in a fight with blippyblop the commentator though over calling his mum a hoe, no thanks.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Thank you for saying it! I thought it was just me lol

[–] hibsen@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think it wouldn't annoy me so much if I knew who any of them were. Seeing something about Globglopr having beef with Cronchstan just makes me think I've had a stroke.

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 14 points 10 months ago

For other possible curious readers, the individuals that are being reference don't exist. I had to check just for the fun of it.

[–] BradPittIsGod@lemmus.org 8 points 10 months ago

You aren't alone, my brother.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

I'd probably care if I knew who most of the top youtubers are but that is not my case.

[–] nebula42 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Tbh sometimes I get surprised about who gets in drama (especially childhood YouTubers), but even then I just don't want to know what they did.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I love it when people go out of their way to insist they don't care about something. "I don't care about politics" is the absolute gold standard, but this is pretty good too.

[–] FierroGamer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Look at how much I don't care!

[–] snowraven@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Nope it's me that doesn't care more about this than you!

[–] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same as people who disagree on Lemmy.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I disagree vehemently with your take on this.

[–] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I disagree with your disagreement.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not only do I disagree with both of you, but I don't even care enough to make a meme about it.

[–] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I can not believe that you really disagree with both of us, insert ad hominem attack.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

People clearly do care, that's why they manufacture drama. It helps drive engagement and views.

Of course, it's hard not to look down on people who develop parasocial relationships with youtube personalities.

But some people are very lonely. So if anything we should be critical of the youtuber who knowingly cultivate unhealthy fanbases and profit off their misery.

[–] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I don’t look down on them per se.

Id just appreciate if they could keep their interests within the bubble of those respective communities.

I.e. not invoking the spippycoo drama in comparison to actual news.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

CEO drama or higher.

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